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Graham
2-Feb-2010
[367]
So, is there a documented dependency tree somewhere ....?
BrianH
2-Feb-2010
[368]
On external libs, or internal dependencies?
Graham
2-Feb-2010
[369x2]
so that the most enabling work can be done .. what's at the top of 
the tree?
I suspect it's the license!
BrianH
2-Feb-2010
[371x2]
Oh, sorting the todo list. No, the license isn't at the top.
Let's see:
- 1.6 depends on 1.2, and 1.3, 1.5 and 1.6 are related to these
- 2.1 and 4.3 depends on 1.1 (probably)
- 2.2 depends on 1.6 (probably)
- 3.3 depends on 2.1, 3.1 and 3.2
- 4.1 is written and submitted already
- 4.2 is in process
- 4.3 is waiting for discussion
- 4.4 depends on 7.1

- Clipboard support for other formats than text depends on 5.1 and 
5.2
- 7.3 and 7.4 will probably use the same code
- 8.2 depends on 5.7

- 8.5 (and secure use of R3) depends on 5.5, 5.8, 7.1, 7.2 and possibly 
6.2
Those are the dependencies I can see in the R3 priorities list.
Andreas
2-Feb-2010
[373]
now topo-sort it, break cycles and off you go :)
Maxim
2-Feb-2010
[374]
hahaha.
Paul
2-Feb-2010
[375x2]
Has return changed in R3?
requires a value now?
BrianH
2-Feb-2010
[377]
No, it's function argument handling that has changed. RETURN required 
a value in R2 as well, you could just cheat.
Andreas
2-Feb-2010
[378]
yes, use EXIT if you don't want to return a value
Paul
2-Feb-2010
[379x2]
got ya.
thanks.
BrianH
2-Feb-2010
[381]
You can't cheat on word [unset!] arguments anymore. You have to use 
lit-word [unset!] or get-word [unset!].
Paul
2-Feb-2010
[382]
ahh - that is good to know also.
BrianH
2-Feb-2010
[383]
Look at the source of CD for an example.
Paul
2-Feb-2010
[384x2]
will do.
yeah unset it returns current directory - nice feature.
BrianH
2-Feb-2010
[386]
That kind of thing is *only* for use in functions meant to be used 
interactively from the console (at least that's the policy).
Maxim
2-Feb-2010
[387x2]
this means R3 *technically* actually has variable length arguments 
 :-)
on top of refinements.
BrianH
2-Feb-2010
[389x3]
That CD has been ported to 2.7.8 - see the Core group for the source.
Maxim, you misspelled :-(
Priorities not in the priorities list:

- User-addable devices in the host, and device extensions (probably 
the same mechanism) in section 1
- SSL in section 8
Maxim
2-Feb-2010
[392]
misspelled what?
BrianH
2-Feb-2010
[393]
You spelled :-( as :-)
Maxim
2-Feb-2010
[394x2]
aaaah hehehehe
but don't see why this is bad, its very confined... I mean... its 
not like we're going to start seeing this in code:

do [cd]

just so we can supply less arguments and slow down our code.
BrianH
2-Feb-2010
[396]
Yup, it wouldn't surprise me if that would slow down your code.
Pekr
3-Feb-2010
[397x4]
Most important from my perspective:

- finish Extension enhancements
- finish Host enhancements
- move View to the enhanced command! interface

both to the state, that ppl can fully exploit those features.

- multitasking


... for Doc starting to port Cheyenne as mostly the only one REBOL 
killer product

- support porting efforts, get us to the mobile devices (ARM)


... as for Console and some other items - yes it sucks to not have 
them available, but I think that having strong infrastructure in-place 
is really important. But overall we need all the priority list implemented 
for R3 being worth calling a beta ...
... and someone damned fix the useless 'call function :-)
.... some ppl also requested enhanced /library interface being done 
as an extension. I started by donating 100USD, and now we are at 
someting like 400 USD ppl would pay for such a feature. So, what 
do we sponsor next? :-)
... but ... I think that A97 should lower the number of CC non-solved 
tickets. There is plenty of them added recently ...
Graham
3-Feb-2010
[401x4]
A GUI table would be nice ...
nearly a month after Carl said he was going to work on a new alpha
>> chat
Fetching chat...
Cannot load chat from web.
Can't reach rebol.com and rebol.net ...
Sunanda
3-Feb-2010
[405]
chat / com / net -- all working from where I am.
Henrik
3-Feb-2010
[406]
no problems here
Graham
3-Feb-2010
[407x3]
Well, that was odd ... and I couldn't see any r3 updates either!
Hmm... still down for me after rebooting
So Carl .. hostkit ...
Carl
3-Feb-2010
[410]
Yes?
Graham
3-Feb-2010
[411x2]
that's what we feel you need to work on first!
concensus ...
Carl
3-Feb-2010
[413]
Good to know.
Paul
4-Feb-2010
[414]
Hostkit?  - we need some core bugs fixed.
Pekr
4-Feb-2010
[415]
those fixes started. Look at CC, first 6 bugs fixed, and I hope the 
list of fixes will be even bigger for next version ...
Paul
4-Feb-2010
[416]
Good I hope so.