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Andreas
2-Aug-2010
[4275]
mm, funx would be nice :)
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4276]
Maxim, that is why I liked "funx" :)
Andreas
2-Aug-2010
[4277]
but it has such a pluralist sound to it :)
Graham
2-Aug-2010
[4278]
x implies a break ... from past behaviours
Maxim
2-Aug-2010
[4279]
I feel that when reading code, funx  sticks out very well from the 
rest, and it doesn't have that strange esoteric feel which funct 
 has.
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4280]
Func extreme!
Gregg
2-Aug-2010
[4281]
I am only partially to blame. I think, even then, I expressed concern 
about the beauty of the word funct. That said, I don't think funx, 
funq, or lfunc are any better. I believe a number of people were 
there and really tried to find a good name.
Graham
2-Aug-2010
[4282x2]
before we change the name, we had better get RT's opinion
RT = Rebol Tutorial :)
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4284]
It really is getting a bit late to bring this up now. FUNCT is already 
in R2 as well, and is in most R3 code that has been written so far.
Maxim
2-Aug-2010
[4285x2]
funct: :funx  ;-)


then just do a big search/replace on files with funct in them... 
can be automated in a few lines...
then = or
Graham
2-Aug-2010
[4287]
R3 is alpha ...
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4288]
In response to an earlier comment by Maxim, not being a german-speaker 
I am not reminded of body parts. However, FUNCT reminds me of "perfunctory", 
which is an ugly-sounding name in English.
Graham
2-Aug-2010
[4289]
If we don't fix things in alpha .. when do we fix them?
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4290]
getting a bit late
 != "too late"
Maxim
2-Aug-2010
[4291]
the only thing I find funny about the FUNCT  is that pretty much 
everyone prefers something else  (sorry Gregg ;-)   


maybe Carl chose it knowing that everyone one would feel equal  ;-)
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4292]
I would consider it too late if we don't do the fix before 2.7.8 
comes out, as that is looking like it will be the first really good 
R2 release. When it comes out.
Andreas
2-Aug-2010
[4293]
Back-porting alpha functionality is always a tough call. I would 
prefer it if the existence of back-ported R3 functionality would 
not harm the flexibility we have while R3 is still in alpha.
Gregg
2-Aug-2010
[4294x2]
Yup, everyone here, right now Max. ;-)  Give me a better option and 
I'm there.
Andreas +1
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4296x2]
We only back-port stuff when its behavior is settled. Not all of 
R3 is alpha. FUNCT has been consistent for 1.5 years.
As have all of the other backports. There are almost no backports 
that haven't been solid since before modules were introduced.
Maxim
2-Aug-2010
[4298]
yes in this case, the functionality doesn't change, only a word label, 
its a much less tedious process.
Andreas
2-Aug-2010
[4299]
Unfortunately, we don't seem to be able to come up with a better 
name anyway :)
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4300x3]
This is why R2/Forward is still 2.100.80.* whrn R3 is 2.100.102.
whrn
 is an example of the typo I was mentioning.
Happens all the time.
Gregg
2-Aug-2010
[4303]
We need that 5-second rule for editing AltME messages. I do that 
a lot myslf.
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4304]
Another example is renaming SINGLE? to LAST? - a good idea, but likely 
to be done as adding the name LAST?, not removing the name SINGLE?.
Maxim
2-Aug-2010
[4305]
yes its like empty? and tail?  I coudn't live without one or the 
other, though one is more stringent...  last? and single?  should 
follow the same path.
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4306]
As I said in that ticket, the strictness is an absolute feature.
Graham
2-Aug-2010
[4307x4]
Funct may have been there for 1.5 years .. but I haven't started 
using it ...
( much )
It's in the network protocols ...
but then I can just put at the top funct: :funx
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4311]
Really? We use it every chance we get in the mezzanines. Except where 
inappropriate, of course. It makes functions look cleaner.
Graham
2-Aug-2010
[4312x2]
That's because I'm still developing with sdk 2.7.7
And as far as I can tell, the stuff you wrote has never been properly 
documented
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4314]
Which has FUNCT.
Graham
2-Aug-2010
[4315x3]
2.7.6 .... I meant
I didn't see any compelling reason to upgrade to 2.7.7
and there were a number of reports, including one from Carl, to say 
that 2.7.7 sdk was broken
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4318]
Nor would I suggest it, even though 2.7.6 has known problems. You 
can grab the rest from R2/Forward anyways. I would suggest waiting 
to upgrade until 2.7.8.
Graham
2-Aug-2010
[4319]
Where exactly is R2/forward documented/?
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4320x2]
In the source. But only the changes from R3 need to be documented. 
For the most part the R3 documentation should apply.
The whole point to R2/Forward was to replicate R3 behavior. And it 
does so wherever possible or practical.
Graham
2-Aug-2010
[4322]
R3 is alpha .. it seems to me a little odd to expect R2 users to 
have to look at R3 documentation for R2 functionality
BrianH
2-Aug-2010
[4323x2]
Not all of R3 is alpha. Some of it is quite settled.
At the time of the last R2 release the documentation was being reorganized 
and no third-parties had access to it. So I couldn't update the documentation.