World: r3wp

Chris, we have another function already: DEFAULT. It converts none 
or unset to a default value. This deals with the most common case 
of what to do when you have uninitialized values. The other cases 
are handled by ASSERT/type or conditional functions, though conditional 
functions won't work without extra help if we make optional function 
args unset by default (the extra help being UNSET?, VALUE? or get-words 
and op tricks, the hassle I was talking about earlier).

I have a host-kit, that allows multline commands.

I am thinking, if it makes sense to extend it to mulitiline strings.
How far is the console mode for R3?

seems to work

I don't think that there is somebody working on console code.

console hasn't moved and likely won't move until hostkit is done.

Carl says he has tried to build R3 for Solaris, and AmigaOS

And is going to try a 64 bit build since the Solaris pc provided 
by TomC is 64 bit ( .. umm... aren't all PCs 64 bit ?? )

New ones are. Most PCs are not new.

I'd say all PC's are mentally from 1981. :-)

You are generous, Henrik :)

so Carl is doing a C64 build?

Commodore 64? That would be something, but I doubt it.

No ...

I was just adding voluntary confusion  ;-)

he would have to build a REBOL using BASIC hehehe

Well as long as you weren't forced to, I'm sure you'll be fine. Get 
well soon! :)

Maxim, there are C compilers for 6502 :-) I think we discussed this 
earlier.

64 bit CPUs have been around for some years now

whether people are running a 64 bit OS is a different matter

I'm happy to see a Solaris build being attempted.

he doesn't say what fails though ... whether it was the core or the 
gui

Looks like if you want a build, you have to supply Carl with the 
hardware

I am running 64bit. As with many Win7 users (not quite the majority 
yet).

problem with the 64 bit win is that many HW drivers where not ported 
to 64 bit and many don't work as-is.  (my friend can't use her 1500$ 
 sony HD camera, for example  :(

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/android-poised-to-be-no-2-smartphone-os-worldwide/37976?tag=nl.e589


Android jumps from 1.8% market share to 17% ahead of Apple.  Someone 
got a spare Android phone for Carl/?

isn't nokia also favoring android over symbian on some of its phones?

Well, Rebol lost the battle for mindshare on desktops and servers 
.. time to see if we can get somewhere on phones

if Android is Linux based, then it shouldn't be too hard to make 
R3 work on Android.

Graham, do you think phones are important enough to Carl to make 
the necessary effort and compromises?

I have an Android phone (or will once I get the data transfered from 
my old phone). It is not much effort for Carl to make a new r3lib 
build - it's not platform-specific code. Then people with phones 
can decide for themselves whether or not they are important.

Gregg, phones are the most ubiquitous computing platform known in 
this universe

Henrik, Android is Linux-based, but Android apps are Java-based. 
So it's a matter of making a host lib that is compatible with their 
native lib API.

And then figuring out what advantages REBOL can bring to the table.

I'm reading that Android doesn't actually use a JVM, but a Dalvik 
VM. Interesting.

Can Jpython and Jruby run on Android?

When last I heard, no. Not even Scala yet. But they are working on 
it.

Graham, I'm not denying that, but is that important to Carl?

See http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/07/28/Ruby-and-Python-on-Android
for a good high-level discussion of scripting language support on 
Android.

Two pieces of note: JRuby is working on Android, see  Ruboto. And 
SL4A provides an easy way to get started with Android support for 
non-Java-based scripting languages.

Gregg, with the host kit it doesn't have to be important to Carl. 
All he has to do is minimal. It just has to be important to someone 
else.

I'll buy Carl the hardware, if he'll make a port to Android.  iPhone, 
Blackberry, Windows Phone, too.

is iPhone even possible?

Jailbroken iPhones are possible

so you'll buy a broken phone for Carl?

If we could get REBOL into Cydia, It'd be worth it.

rebol memory requirements have always been huge .. what are these 
devices now capable of ?

Apple has recently relaxed the restrictions on interpreters, on a 
case-by-case basis. Most of REBOL would probably need to be excluded 
from iPhone builds (networking support, for instance). And it would 
be difficult to write cross-platform apps without them being rejected. 
But you could make a iPhone-specific version of R3, and it might 
be approved. Host kit apps only though, no scripts.

Nick, what do you invisage using rebol on an iphone for?

Here's an interesting subject: What value does R3 have as a library 
in another app with its own GUI and networking?

would you be able to run a web server on the phone?