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[!REBOL3]

sqlab
10-Aug-2010
[4369]
seems to work
Oldes
10-Aug-2010
[4370]
I don't think that there is somebody working on console code.
Henrik
10-Aug-2010
[4371]
console hasn't moved and likely won't move until hostkit is done.
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[4372x2]
Carl says he has tried to build R3 for Solaris, and AmigaOS
And is going to try a 64 bit build since the Solaris pc provided 
by TomC is 64 bit ( .. umm... aren't all PCs 64 bit ?? )
BrianH
12-Aug-2010
[4374]
New ones are. Most PCs are not new.
Henrik
12-Aug-2010
[4375]
I'd say all PC's are mentally from 1981. :-)
BrianH
12-Aug-2010
[4376]
You are generous, Henrik :)
Maxim
12-Aug-2010
[4377]
so Carl is doing a C64 build?
BrianH
12-Aug-2010
[4378]
Commodore 64? That would be something, but I doubt it.
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[4379]
No ...
Maxim
12-Aug-2010
[4380x2]
I was just adding voluntary confusion  ;-)
he would have to build a REBOL using BASIC hehehe
BrianH
12-Aug-2010
[4382]
Well as long as you weren't forced to, I'm sure you'll be fine. Get 
well soon! :)
Henrik
12-Aug-2010
[4383]
Maxim, there are C compilers for 6502 :-) I think we discussed this 
earlier.
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[4384x5]
64 bit CPUs have been around for some years now
whether people are running a 64 bit OS is a different matter
I'm happy to see a Solaris build being attempted.
he doesn't say what fails though ... whether it was the core or the 
gui
Looks like if you want a build, you have to supply Carl with the 
hardware
BrianH
12-Aug-2010
[4389]
I am running 64bit. As with many Win7 users (not quite the majority 
yet).
Maxim
12-Aug-2010
[4390]
problem with the 64 bit win is that many HW drivers where not ported 
to 64 bit and many don't work as-is.  (my friend can't use her 1500$ 
 sony HD camera, for example  :(
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[4391]
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/android-poised-to-be-no-2-smartphone-os-worldwide/37976?tag=nl.e589


Android jumps from 1.8% market share to 17% ahead of Apple.  Someone 
got a spare Android phone for Carl/?
Maxim
12-Aug-2010
[4392]
isn't nokia also favoring android over symbian on some of its phones?
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[4393]
Well, Rebol lost the battle for mindshare on desktops and servers 
.. time to see if we can get somewhere on phones
Henrik
12-Aug-2010
[4394]
if Android is Linux based, then it shouldn't be too hard to make 
R3 work on Android.
Gregg
12-Aug-2010
[4395]
Graham, do you think phones are important enough to Carl to make 
the necessary effort and compromises?
BrianH
12-Aug-2010
[4396]
I have an Android phone (or will once I get the data transfered from 
my old phone). It is not much effort for Carl to make a new r3lib 
build - it's not platform-specific code. Then people with phones 
can decide for themselves whether or not they are important.
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[4397]
Gregg, phones are the most ubiquitous computing platform known in 
this universe
BrianH
12-Aug-2010
[4398x2]
Henrik, Android is Linux-based, but Android apps are Java-based. 
So it's a matter of making a host lib that is compatible with their 
native lib API.
And then figuring out what advantages REBOL can bring to the table.
Henrik
12-Aug-2010
[4400]
I'm reading that Android doesn't actually use a JVM, but a Dalvik 
VM. Interesting.
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[4401]
Can Jpython and Jruby run on Android?
BrianH
12-Aug-2010
[4402]
When last I heard, no. Not even Scala yet. But they are working on 
it.
Gregg
12-Aug-2010
[4403]
Graham, I'm not denying that, but is that important to Carl?
Andreas
12-Aug-2010
[4404x2]
See http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/07/28/Ruby-and-Python-on-Android
for a good high-level discussion of scripting language support on 
Android.
Two pieces of note: JRuby is working on Android, see  Ruboto. And 
SL4A provides an easy way to get started with Android support for 
non-Java-based scripting languages.
BrianH
12-Aug-2010
[4406]
Gregg, with the host kit it doesn't have to be important to Carl. 
All he has to do is minimal. It just has to be important to someone 
else.
NickA
12-Aug-2010
[4407]
I'll buy Carl the hardware, if he'll make a port to Android.  iPhone, 
Blackberry, Windows Phone, too.
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[4408]
is iPhone even possible?
NickA
12-Aug-2010
[4409]
Jailbroken iPhones are possible
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[4410]
so you'll buy a broken phone for Carl?
NickA
12-Aug-2010
[4411]
If we could get REBOL into Cydia, It'd be worth it.
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[4412]
rebol memory requirements have always been huge .. what are these 
devices now capable of ?
BrianH
12-Aug-2010
[4413]
Apple has recently relaxed the restrictions on interpreters, on a 
case-by-case basis. Most of REBOL would probably need to be excluded 
from iPhone builds (networking support, for instance). And it would 
be difficult to write cross-platform apps without them being rejected. 
But you could make a iPhone-specific version of R3, and it might 
be approved. Host kit apps only though, no scripts.
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[4414]
Nick, what do you invisage using rebol on an iphone for?
BrianH
12-Aug-2010
[4415]
Here's an interesting subject: What value does R3 have as a library 
in another app with its own GUI and networking?
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[4416x2]
would you be able to run a web server on the phone?
Use all those spare cycles for seti ?
BrianH
12-Aug-2010
[4418]
Likely not a web server, especially if it has any dynamic code.