World: r3wp
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sqlab 10-Aug-2010 [4369] | seems to work |
Oldes 10-Aug-2010 [4370] | I don't think that there is somebody working on console code. |
Henrik 10-Aug-2010 [4371] | console hasn't moved and likely won't move until hostkit is done. |
Graham 12-Aug-2010 [4372x2] | Carl says he has tried to build R3 for Solaris, and AmigaOS |
And is going to try a 64 bit build since the Solaris pc provided by TomC is 64 bit ( .. umm... aren't all PCs 64 bit ?? ) | |
BrianH 12-Aug-2010 [4374] | New ones are. Most PCs are not new. |
Henrik 12-Aug-2010 [4375] | I'd say all PC's are mentally from 1981. :-) |
BrianH 12-Aug-2010 [4376] | You are generous, Henrik :) |
Maxim 12-Aug-2010 [4377] | so Carl is doing a C64 build? |
BrianH 12-Aug-2010 [4378] | Commodore 64? That would be something, but I doubt it. |
Graham 12-Aug-2010 [4379] | No ... |
Maxim 12-Aug-2010 [4380x2] | I was just adding voluntary confusion ;-) |
he would have to build a REBOL using BASIC hehehe | |
BrianH 12-Aug-2010 [4382] | Well as long as you weren't forced to, I'm sure you'll be fine. Get well soon! :) |
Henrik 12-Aug-2010 [4383] | Maxim, there are C compilers for 6502 :-) I think we discussed this earlier. |
Graham 12-Aug-2010 [4384x5] | 64 bit CPUs have been around for some years now |
whether people are running a 64 bit OS is a different matter | |
I'm happy to see a Solaris build being attempted. | |
he doesn't say what fails though ... whether it was the core or the gui | |
Looks like if you want a build, you have to supply Carl with the hardware | |
BrianH 12-Aug-2010 [4389] | I am running 64bit. As with many Win7 users (not quite the majority yet). |
Maxim 12-Aug-2010 [4390] | problem with the 64 bit win is that many HW drivers where not ported to 64 bit and many don't work as-is. (my friend can't use her 1500$ sony HD camera, for example :( |
Graham 12-Aug-2010 [4391] | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/android-poised-to-be-no-2-smartphone-os-worldwide/37976?tag=nl.e589 Android jumps from 1.8% market share to 17% ahead of Apple. Someone got a spare Android phone for Carl/? |
Maxim 12-Aug-2010 [4392] | isn't nokia also favoring android over symbian on some of its phones? |
Graham 12-Aug-2010 [4393] | Well, Rebol lost the battle for mindshare on desktops and servers .. time to see if we can get somewhere on phones |
Henrik 12-Aug-2010 [4394] | if Android is Linux based, then it shouldn't be too hard to make R3 work on Android. |
Gregg 12-Aug-2010 [4395] | Graham, do you think phones are important enough to Carl to make the necessary effort and compromises? |
BrianH 12-Aug-2010 [4396] | I have an Android phone (or will once I get the data transfered from my old phone). It is not much effort for Carl to make a new r3lib build - it's not platform-specific code. Then people with phones can decide for themselves whether or not they are important. |
Graham 12-Aug-2010 [4397] | Gregg, phones are the most ubiquitous computing platform known in this universe |
BrianH 12-Aug-2010 [4398x2] | Henrik, Android is Linux-based, but Android apps are Java-based. So it's a matter of making a host lib that is compatible with their native lib API. |
And then figuring out what advantages REBOL can bring to the table. | |
Henrik 12-Aug-2010 [4400] | I'm reading that Android doesn't actually use a JVM, but a Dalvik VM. Interesting. |
Graham 12-Aug-2010 [4401] | Can Jpython and Jruby run on Android? |
BrianH 12-Aug-2010 [4402] | When last I heard, no. Not even Scala yet. But they are working on it. |
Gregg 12-Aug-2010 [4403] | Graham, I'm not denying that, but is that important to Carl? |
Andreas 12-Aug-2010 [4404x2] | See http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/07/28/Ruby-and-Python-on-Android for a good high-level discussion of scripting language support on Android. |
Two pieces of note: JRuby is working on Android, see Ruboto. And SL4A provides an easy way to get started with Android support for non-Java-based scripting languages. | |
BrianH 12-Aug-2010 [4406] | Gregg, with the host kit it doesn't have to be important to Carl. All he has to do is minimal. It just has to be important to someone else. |
NickA 12-Aug-2010 [4407] | I'll buy Carl the hardware, if he'll make a port to Android. iPhone, Blackberry, Windows Phone, too. |
Graham 12-Aug-2010 [4408] | is iPhone even possible? |
NickA 12-Aug-2010 [4409] | Jailbroken iPhones are possible |
Graham 12-Aug-2010 [4410] | so you'll buy a broken phone for Carl? |
NickA 12-Aug-2010 [4411] | If we could get REBOL into Cydia, It'd be worth it. |
Graham 12-Aug-2010 [4412] | rebol memory requirements have always been huge .. what are these devices now capable of ? |
BrianH 12-Aug-2010 [4413] | Apple has recently relaxed the restrictions on interpreters, on a case-by-case basis. Most of REBOL would probably need to be excluded from iPhone builds (networking support, for instance). And it would be difficult to write cross-platform apps without them being rejected. But you could make a iPhone-specific version of R3, and it might be approved. Host kit apps only though, no scripts. |
Graham 12-Aug-2010 [4414] | Nick, what do you invisage using rebol on an iphone for? |
BrianH 12-Aug-2010 [4415] | Here's an interesting subject: What value does R3 have as a library in another app with its own GUI and networking? |
Graham 12-Aug-2010 [4416x2] | would you be able to run a web server on the phone? |
Use all those spare cycles for seti ? | |
BrianH 12-Aug-2010 [4418] | Likely not a web server, especially if it has any dynamic code. |
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