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Robert
16-Aug-2010
[4472x8]
4. styles: We need a bunch of styles for our apps. We will create 
them all if necessary because we need a stable style set that is 
enterprise & bullet proof. Most likely I can't make use of hobby-styles 
in commercial apps. There is a bunch of other requirements to full-fill.


And yes, we will release these too. But, we set the priorities, we 
fix the bugs we think are critical, we work on the features we need. 
I listen to you, we think about it, but decisions are made on a pure: 
Urgent & necessary for business context.
5. Extensions: We will create a bunch of R3 extensions we need. Some 
will be quite special, some more generic. For these we use a mix 
from open-source libs, commercial frameworks etc. Which bings up 
the nice licensing issue stuff if things should be released.


As I hate licensing issues at all, and it's a big time killer, my 
rule is quite simple: RM Asset will have all necessary licenses we 
need, if I can release stuff we think about it. If not, than not. 
Sorry. I don't have time to get all this sorted out to provide a 
perfect-R3-framework to everyone.
6. collaboration: We are absolutly open to it. We support the community 
with everything that's possible. But, our main focus will not be 
to become the community runners. We have our own priorities and we 
stick to them. Next, we focus on getting things done.


If the community talks about a specific topic, no problem, if people 
code something, no problem. If we need something different, we will 
do it with or without the community.
7. financing / sponsoring: To be able to do it, one needs to have 
something to spend. And yes, making money form projects is the goal 
for us. This gives the freedom to spend money on non-project relasted 
R3 stuff we do. This is the sponsoring and investment we do into 
R3. As long as I can finance the sponsoring parts I will do it.


Again, I follow the golen rule: The one owning the gold makes the 
rules.


Meaning, I set the priorities to the things we need or which complete 
some aspects etc. But it won't be a community driven process.
All this won't stopp anyone to bite the bullet and do something on 
their own. If you want to avoid double work, cross-check with us. 
We will tell everyone what we are working on. I will tell everyone 
what our plans are. etc. As transparent as possible.
Again, we will move forward. You can "follow" us and use what we 
have done. You can "accompany" us to help driving things forward 
faster. At the end of the day it's your decision (of course).
But I won't enter any Kindergarten discussions that are not moving 
us forward or where some go nuts because we have clear red thread 
we follow and don't care to much what they think.
That's it. Overall, IMO we have moved R3 forward much faster and 
with greater progress than before. And it's not only because we are 
now coding everything etc. By far not. But at least we have helped 
to get more momentum to R3.
shadwolf
16-Aug-2010
[4480x3]
android is linux based ... i have one on my acer laptop that's a 
short linux ...
on acer the android don't have access to android market ...
instead of having an android phone maybe the devtools include an 
emulator no ?
Gregg
16-Aug-2010
[4483]
Thanks Robert. I like the fact that a goal is the use of R3 to build 
commercial apps. That means things like accelerator keys and other 
features have a better chance of being seen as important.
Carl
17-Aug-2010
[4484]
http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0329.html- about callbacks
Oldes
17-Aug-2010
[4485]
cool... will be there any examples as well?
Robert
17-Aug-2010
[4486x2]
(OT: Our world is back online)
Carl, great news! I'm ready :-)
Robert
18-Aug-2010
[4488]
I have a XML file and want to handle it by tags like a nested block. 
Are there are any tricks? Or do I need to use PARSE / FIND etc.
Gregg
18-Aug-2010
[4489x2]
So, you want to use path notation on the parse XML?
parsed XML
Robert
18-Aug-2010
[4491x2]
I would like to extract a set of elements like: Everything between 
<TAG> ... </TAG>
TAG should be specified.
Gregg
18-Aug-2010
[4493x2]
What I mean is, do you want to convert the XML to a block and then 
access it like this?

  data/tag
Or do you just want to parse the raw data out of the XML between 
those two <tags>?
Robert
18-Aug-2010
[4495x2]
No, not necessary.
Yes, just raw data.
Gregg
18-Aug-2010
[4497x3]
Just use PARSE then. I have a solution for the block approach, but 
just use PARSE when I need to extract data in more stream-oriented 
ways.
Give me a minute though, I might have something...
This was used with small pieces of XML, rather than entire documents, 
but might be a starting point for you.


xml-get-field: func [input name /local xml-field= data other-name] 
[
	xml-field=: compose/deep [ 
		some [

   (rejoin ["<" name ">"]) copy data to (rejoin ["</" name ">"]) to 
   end
			| skip ;(to paren! [prin '.])
		]
	]
	either parse input xml-field= [data] [none]
]
Robert
18-Aug-2010
[4500]
Ok, thanks.
Sunanda
18-Aug-2010
[4501]
I've used Gavin's XML-object.r in a couple of projects. Not tried 
it under R3 though:
   http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=xml-object.r
Gabriele
19-Aug-2010
[4502x2]
http://www.rebol.it/power-mezz/parsers/ml-parser.html
inside?: no
parse-ml "...your text..." func [command data] [
    either inside? [
        ?? command ?? data
        if command = </tag> [inside?: no]
    ] [
        if command =  <tag> [inside?: yes]
    ]
]
Chris
19-Aug-2010
[4504]
; Another flavour of Rebol XML:
do http://www.ross-gill.com/r/r3xml.r
doc: load-xml/dom location
foreach tag doc/get-by-tag <a> [
	probe tag/flatten
	probe tag/text
	probe tag/get #href
]
Robert
19-Aug-2010
[4505x2]
Chris, you post can now be done native using DECODE. Carl added this 
yesterday.
I proposed a change to how path notation works on TAG! to return 
name value blocks for attributes.
Chris
19-Aug-2010
[4507x2]
Decode loads an XML document?
Is there docs on the change?
Graham
19-Aug-2010
[4509]
even better would be to release the binaries!
Graham
20-Aug-2010
[4510x2]
http://www.rebol.com/cgi-bin/blog.r?view=0484#comments

Does any one have write access, or is Carl mistaken ?
ie. anyone with a rank of 50 or higher
Robert
20-Aug-2010
[4512x4]
Here is how it works:
Added it as a codec so you can access it:

>> ml: decode 'markup read http://www.rebol.com
>> foreach tag ml [probe tag]
<!doctype html>
^/
<html>
<head>
^/
<meta name="generator" content="REBOL WIP Wiki"/>
^/
<meta name="date" content="10-Aug-2010/12:18:33-7:00"/>
^/
<meta name="rebol-version" content="2.100.97.4.2"/>
^/

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=UTF-8"/>
It's a simple way to traverse over tags.
No fancy thing yet.
Pekr
20-Aug-2010
[4516]
btw - codecs were supposed to be redone, using port mechanism, to 
allow streaming etc. Is this the case already, or not?
Robert
20-Aug-2010
[4517]
Don't know. DECODE doesn't look like a port to me. Maybe on the lower 
level this is done via a port like mechanism.
Chris
20-Aug-2010
[4518]
Equivalent to load/markup then? With respect, that's not exactly 
the same as the example I posted...
Robert
20-Aug-2010
[4519]
Yes, that's the missing part I made a proposal for to Carl.
Chris
20-Aug-2010
[4520]
r3xml is an R3 port of AltXML, a Rebolised version of XML DOM: http://bit.ly/XMLandREBOL
RobertS
20-Aug-2010
[4521]
2.100.99.3.1  the use of  function  at  with negative index simply 
returns the whole series - which reminds me to ask why   at   with 
index 0 doe not return the series atfter the last item i.e. place 
you at the end of the series?  The docs for  at   specify behavior 
for a negative index      "Using a negative index N, you can go N 
values backwards in a series:"   PS   I have relocated to Fredericton, 
NB, Canada.  Lovely, green and interesting.