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Henrik 26-Aug-2010 [4655] | ok |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [4656x2] | There's the 2-block method, which would only top out at n^2 performance. Or we could hybrid, using map! for non-structures. |
Or we can do the remove-each copy [not find ...] method, which tends towards n^2. | |
Henrik 26-Aug-2010 [4658] | I'm not sure if I can make a decision here. |
Ammon 26-Aug-2010 [4659] | If you've imported a module and then updated the module and incremented the version of it and then call import again this time requesting a newer version than has been loaded shouldn't the module be reloaded? |
Graham 26-Aug-2010 [4660] | One would think so .. can you even reload a module? |
Ammon 26-Aug-2010 [4661] | The answer is yes! However I'm not sure this is a good idea... remove/part find system/modules 'module 2 import 'module |
Henrik 26-Aug-2010 [4662] | anyone know if R3 RENAME will allow moving files and dirs now? |
Graham 26-Aug-2010 [4663] | ammon, that doesn't look like an approved reload method! |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [4664x3] | Ammon, the answer is yes, without changing system/modules. The new module is added (and used for all new references), and the old module is still referenced in system/modules so the new version can migrate data from the old. |
system/modules is a block. New modules are just added to the beginning of the block. Old versions are not removed by the module system. Security issues might prevent them from being removed at all in the future - this is an unresolved issue. | |
The actual module doesn't have much directly in it, just two objects, one for the spec, one for the local context. If you empty out the local context then there shouldn't be much memory referenced. | |
Ammon 26-Aug-2010 [4667] | Then I've found a bug... And some unexpected behaviour... >> t: import 'test-module >> test 0.0.1 >> t/test 0.0.1 >> t2: import/version 'test-module 0.0.2 ** access error: cannot open: %test-module.r reason: none >> t2: import/version 'test-module 0.0.2 >> test 0.0.1 >> t2/test 0.0.2 Apparently if you don't have the version available in your module search path then it errors out without telling you why it failed. |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [4668x2] | Yeah. The bug is that we need better errors. I am rewriting the module system now (more or less, I took a break for a bit). The last stage is reviewing the errors and getting more informative ones added to the error catalog. |
For now, a lot of the possible errors are just asserts. | |
Ammon 26-Aug-2010 [4670] | And those asserts are incredibly confusing... Glad to know you are working on it. Does this mean that I don't need to enter any of this in CureCode? |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [4671x2] | Yes. When the rewrite is done, I hope to see all of its errors reported though :) |
The new code is specificly designed to be less confusing. The old code failed the hit-by-a-bus test. | |
Ammon 26-Aug-2010 [4673] | Excellent. I'll be anxiously awaiting your update. |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [4674] | Look in the !REBOL3 Modules group for details. I've already given a lot of status updates. |
Ammon 26-Aug-2010 [4675] | LOL! That's pretty much what it felt like when I first started playing with Modules but I seem to be making some progress. |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [4676x2] | The requested delayed modules feature ended up creating a lot of other features as a side effect. The new module system is much more powerful. And by default just as easy to use (I hope). |
The (incomplete) design docs (for the incomplete design) are here: http://www.rebol.net/wiki/Module_Design_Details | |
Henrik 27-Aug-2010 [4678x2] | ok, looks like RENAME under OSX R3-A97 is broken |
and windows too | |
AdrianS 27-Aug-2010 [4680x2] | seems to work on a104 |
only tried using a file!, though | |
Henrik 27-Aug-2010 [4682] | please try a directory |
AdrianS 27-Aug-2010 [4683] | I get "** Script error: cannot use rename on port! value" |
Henrik 27-Aug-2010 [4684] | ok, still broken |
AdrianS 27-Aug-2010 [4685] | are you going to log the issue? |
Henrik 27-Aug-2010 [4686] | it's already in curecode. |
Henrik 28-Aug-2010 [4687] | Finished the first round of RM Asset's build system. There will surely be some revisions required, but I've put the manual out for public study: http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/files/r3/build/build-manual.html |
Steeve 28-Aug-2010 [4688] | nice work |
Demitri 28-Aug-2010 [4689] | Where is the latest 104 release? |
Steeve 28-Aug-2010 [4690] | DTC |
Demitri 28-Aug-2010 [4691] | DTC? |
Steeve 28-Aug-2010 [4692] | is there any related anounce ? |
Demitri 28-Aug-2010 [4693x2] | The blog talks about a 104 version. My last one is 100.x.x.x |
The blog talks about a 104 version. My last one is 100.x.x.x | |
Henrik 28-Aug-2010 [4695] | It's a guru only release and very unstable, but there is a link in the REBOL3 Host Kit group. |
Demitri 28-Aug-2010 [4696] | ok, thanks. |
Graham 28-Aug-2010 [4697] | You can build your own 104 release or download Robert's |
Steeve 28-Aug-2010 [4698] | Oh ! Didn't see the blog |
Demitri 28-Aug-2010 [4699] | ok, thanks guys. |
Steeve 28-Aug-2010 [4700] | I'm like Henrik, I use an old one cuurently, A95 |
Graham 28-Aug-2010 [4701] | the 104 you build works with go.r but Robert's doesn't |
Henrik 28-Aug-2010 [4702] | anything after A97 is pretty much bat country right now. |
Demitri 28-Aug-2010 [4703] | Is there graphics yet? |
Henrik 28-Aug-2010 [4704] | yes, barely working |
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