World: r3wp
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Maxim 17-Sep-2010 [4932x2] | because we now have unbind and generally much more control over the binding, I would have thought that auto-binding to user context wouldn't be such a big issue. |
it used to be an issue because we could not unbind. | |
ChristianE 17-Sep-2010 [4934] | May I withdraw my suggestion? Don't use is in tight loops: >> dt [loop 100000 [set load "a" 2]] == 0:00:02.017813 >> dt [loop 100000 [set bind to word! "a" 's 2]] == 0:00:00.079424 |
Maxim 17-Sep-2010 [4935] | hehe |
ChristianE 17-Sep-2010 [4936] | ;-) |
Henrik 17-Sep-2010 [4937] | well, then there has to be a better way to do that. some kind of default-bind. |
Maxim 17-Sep-2010 [4938] | I just discoverd this func... utf? in some fonts the u looks like a w... hehehe |
Andreas 17-Sep-2010 [4939] | set bind/new to word! "a" self 2 or set bind/new to word! "a" system/contexts/user 2 |
Gregg 17-Sep-2010 [4940x2] | Max, it's a dialect: 'ut th' fu'? Though perhaps we could have a WTF? error-related func. |
A refinement for SET might be very handy for the unbound scenario, and BrianH may chime in with the design logic to help clarify. | |
Maxim 17-Sep-2010 [4942] | yes.... wtf? as a small undocumented easter egg could be a nice little rebol detail :-D basically it could be an alias for why? |
Gregg 17-Sep-2010 [4943] | Maybe combined with a stack dump? That is, when you say WTF? you need all the help you can get. And the refinement for even more info would be /!. ;-) |
Maxim 17-Sep-2010 [4944] | we should find refinements for: WTF?/$/!/@/*/ ;-) |
Henrik 17-Sep-2010 [4945] | hmm... refinements are case sensitive? >> txt == [Errors: 0 Warnings: 0 Outputs: 1 Skipped: 0] txt/errors == 0 txt/Errors == none |
ChristianE 17-Sep-2010 [4946x3] | That is very strange and makes me wonder why I haven't been tripped by this BTW, you're talking path notation here not refinements. With function refinements it seems to work as expected. |
>> test: func [/a] [all [a 'a]] >> test/a == a >> test/A == a | |
>> test: [a 1 A 2] == [a 1 A 2] >> test/a == 1 >> test/A == none This is dowright unexpected, I'd consider it a bug, what do you think? You'd better curecode this, I guess. | |
Graham 17-Sep-2010 [4949x2] | probably never tripped by it because no one uses upper case refinements! |
Looks like no one has posted this to curecode yet | |
PeterWood 17-Sep-2010 [4951] | MAx: "did someone forget that REBOL is supposed to be "simple" ?" Did you miss this blog: http://www.rebol.com/article/0374.html Simplicity is a thing of the past. |
Maxim 17-Sep-2010 [4952] | hehe |
Graham 17-Sep-2010 [4953x2] | I thought that was not a good post myself ... |
People use things at different levels of expertise ... and if there are enough experts around to critique their work, they will get better. So, the differing programming styles seen are a reflection of Rebol's failure. | |
Gregg 18-Sep-2010 [4955] | Simple things should still be simple. |
Graham 18-Sep-2010 [4956] | And complex things are complex |
Gregg 18-Sep-2010 [4957] | As long as they're possible. :-) |
Henrik 19-Sep-2010 [4958x2] | is there a function to recursively delete a directory? I should probably have asked before I wrote one. :-) |
Otherwise, here is one, feel free to optimize: delete-dir: func [dir /only criteria] [ dir: clean-path dir foreach file read dir [ if any [not only do func [file] criteria file] [ file: dir/:file if dir? file [delete-dir file] delete file ] ] ] | |
Gregg 19-Sep-2010 [4960x2] | Optimizing file deletes means first avoiding the standard DELETE func. It reads the dir each time which can kill you if you have a large dir or, heaven forbid, point it at an FTP location. You can build on CLEAR easily though. delete-all-files-in-dir: func [dir /local port] [ port: open dir clear port close port ] I think my tree deleters all rely on some of my other stuff, like FILE-LIST and DO-IN-DIR (now standard as IN-DIR). They generally have a callback option as well, so you can track progress. |
R3 may be different as I see it's an action now. | |
Chris 19-Sep-2010 [4962x4] | I have a version that redefines delete that I wrote for QM: http://www.ross-gill.com/r/brutal-delete.html It has an optional /pare refinement that deletes empty parent folders too. |
It's defined only to take URLs (as QM doesn't access files directly) but I think should work adding a file! argument. | |
Also not sure if it works the same way with R3 file ports. | |
Nup, guess not: ** Script error: cannot use clear on port! value | |
Andreas 19-Sep-2010 [4966x3] | Interesting. I think that's a bug, as CLEAR's spec is as follows: clear: make action! [[ {Removes all values. For series, removes from current index to tail and returns tail. (Modifies)} series [series! port! map! gob! bitset! none!] ]] |
Well, guess it's just the error message that is misleading, as CLEAR still works on file ports. | |
(Not on directory ports, though.) | |
Chris 19-Sep-2010 [4969x2] | That explains it. Wonder why not? |
I guess 'remove doesn't either. | |
Andreas 19-Sep-2010 [4971] | I think it's basically "just not implemented". :) |
Maxim 19-Sep-2010 [4972] | this should be reported on CC, if its not there already (just so its not forgotten) |
Andreas 19-Sep-2010 [4973] | From a quick glance at the host kit, I think implementing it would be rather easy (basically another special case for RFM_TRUNCATE for RFM_DIR in Write_File in dev-file.c). But wiring it up to the directory port actor is beyond our freedoms with the hostkit, I think. |
Gregg 19-Sep-2010 [4974] | Would it make sense, or even be possible, for RT to do all the internal wiring for port actors, with a default TBD stub that people replace when working on their host kit? |
Andreas 19-Sep-2010 [4975] | Yes, it probably would. At least in this specific case that's quite possible to do. But in general it would make more sense if the flexibility to define and wire "native" ports would move to the hostkit completely. |
Chris 19-Sep-2010 [4976] | Is it perhaps intentional that 'remove and hence 'clear don't work as 'delete is now the action! type responsible for this task? |
Henrik 20-Sep-2010 [4977x2] | am I correct that quotes are lost in system/script/args? I need some testing here. |
the workaround is to do something like: launch/args %something mold to-binary mold/all [my-data: "test"] which doesn't seem particularly pretty | |
Gabriele 20-Sep-2010 [4979x2] | Use system/options/args to get the list of arguments as they come from the operating system. system/script/args is more like a rejoin of system/options/args. LAUNCH seems to not be doing much more than what CALL does, which means there is no escaping of the operating system's shell special characters. If CALL/INPUT did not imply /WAIT, it could have been a better way to pass REBOL data to a new process. |
(not sure if any of this is going to be changed for R3) | |
Henrik 20-Sep-2010 [4981] | LAUNCH is undergoing revision in R3 these days and is a mezz, not a native, but the problem seems not to be on the side of LAUNCH. |
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