World: r3wp

Thanks for the analysis. I kinda know the reason, but the documentation 
should make the limits clear ro those who do not know (or have not 
thought through the implcations of) the internal representations.

INFs are a low priority.....But they are also an interesting REBOL 
phenomena...Unserialisable values that do not always equal other 
same-sized INFs :)

    xx: array/initial 100 as-pair 1e44  -1e44
    length? unique xx

    == 100   ;; 100 separate infinities ... Cantor would be proud!

    (first xx/1) = (first xx/1)
    == true
    (first xx/1) = (first xx/2)

    == true           ;; or perhaps its just UNIQUE having a bad day

    xx/1 = xx/2     ;; or perhaps not
    == false

To have infinity values would be good, but the current behaviour 
is a bug of course. The positive/negative infinity must be loadable 
as a normal number, not just in pairs.

Thanks Oldes. I've curecoded the inconsistencies I've noticed:
   http://www.curecode.org/rebol3/ticket.rsp?id=1717

Sunanda, you wrote, that INF support was good, not mentioning why. 
Can you explain, why do you want to have it?

INFs (and NANs) are part of the standards REBOL is coded to. It's 
good to match as much of the standard as possible.

Hmm, that reason is not relevant, as far as I can tell. Example: 
IEEE754 standards define comparisons, but REBOL uses a different 
approach.

So, REBOL is not "coded to standards", rather it uses the available 
features of the hardware.

In my opinion, the exclusion of infinities from the decimal! datatype 
was intended, exactly because REBOL was not "coded to standards". 
(I may be wrong, not being Carl, though)

In general, the usage of infinities in programming languages is not 
required by any standards, as far as I can tell. In my opinion, it 
is only "supported".

REBOL clearly uses parts of the standard -- raising errors! rather 
than returning NANs or INFs is generally a useful approach for most 
programmers.

But, given it (now) partially implements INFs, some clarity about 
what parts (and why) would be useful too.

Well, I feel it may be the other way around - when not wanting to 
write much code, it is easier to have INFs than not. The removal 
of INFs requires to take care of all the exceptions.

Pekr, Andreas, ChristianE and anyon who is interested...I published 
win console R3core version that should show correctly ut8 characters. 
IF you can try to dsiplay your native language chars just download 
it from here: http://cyphre.mysteria.cz/tests/r3-core-a107-console.zip
and let me know if it works for you.

Note that this version doesn't work well with STDIN/OUT redirection 
yet. I didn't want to waste time on this part yet until the normal 
console STDIN/OUT works well.

Cyphre, this looks like a nice acomplishment. Those aren't exactly 
letters from my native language's alphabet, but your console nicely 
prints  

>> print to string! #{e282acc2aec3a4c59fc691cea3ceaecfae}


when startet in a cmd.exe console reusing that as well as opening 
it's own console if double clicked from desktop.

Cyphre, does it allow you to input "special" characters as well?

Yes, seems it does.

And it launches nicely from both a pre-existing console as well as 
from the explorer.

Very nice, Cyphre!

(Ah yes, console not GUI build, so that last part is for free :)

ok, what about having console (not GUI) build of R3, and loading 
View extension? Could it work?

sure, it does work already.

if you remember my console build you downloaded earlier :)

yes ... that is why I am confused, because there was a saying, that 
under Windows, you can't have both worlds - console, and GUI app 
in one, and that e.g. even python uses two separate executables ...

Very good work. I confirm that under Vista (32 bit) it works well 
so far. Both from the icon, and from the cmd console. I don't even 
have to change fonts ...

I'm not sure what chars to expect from the above test string, but 
it doesn't work for me.

That is, I get ?? along with a few other chars that I'm not sure 
are outside the ascii range.

I get "?Ra(with umlaut)s(with hook under it)???"

I get a plain "?(registered trademark)(a with umlaut)s(integral sign)S??"

um... what page do people get with www.rebol.com?

ah, nevermind. seems to be a DNS issue.

Carl asking for comments (it's a Curecode, not the usual blog RFC, 
so might get overlooked):
   http://www.curecode.org/rebol3/ticket.rsp?id=1719&cursor=1

DNS problem:
   http://www.rebol.com/article/0493.html

we can't comment its reviewed... but I would call it  diff   not 
compare.


since if they are equal it would return none, its a much better word 
than compare.

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Agreed, Maxim.

yeah... just added a simple comment which makes it obvious that diff 
is a better name.

Look at 1718 and 1720 too.

commented 1720

1718 looks good to me.. though the name is hard to map to the effect 
it has... I didn't find a better one.

I think FORFIND was one (worse, and by me) suggestion, when Carl 
brought this up in a blog last year.

I just had a flash!!!

when data value [  do something  ]

Nothing particularly loop-y or sequency about WHEN, not like *ALL.

we already have difference

I have suggest 'diverge?

ed

not difference.... diff.

actually difference could handle series .  right now its not used 
on series... or is it?

It is, and differently.

that's the point .. we already have difference .. so we should choose 
a different word

It treats the series like sets. One of the group with UNIQUE.