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GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5782x2] | I thought we were programming in rebol? |
suffix? length? | |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5784x2] | ? words are logic returning words. true none false. |
(at least that is what they should do.) | |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5786] | The base language for the naming of REBOL functions is English. But REBOL adds naming conventions that English doesn't have. |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5787x2] | what logical computation does 'suffix? do ? |
and length? et cetera | |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5789x2] | So the ? is the REBOL equivalent to the nce in divergence. |
Otherwise, diverge is a verb. | |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5791x2] | ? should stand for : is [something] ? but its also used as: what is [something] ? though the second form could be used on just about every function which isn't a process... so I don't like that we sometimes add ? when we really are asking for a process of some data. |
suffix? is not does this have a suffix? it's give me the suffix. | |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5793] | ? is also used in Rebol to mean "of" |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5794x2] | that is the second form..... what is [something] of ? |
of implied if there is an argumetn. | |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5796] | waste? [ of time ] |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5797] | Then would need the nce. Diverge is still an action word. Divergence is the noun. |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5798] | Sorry, language is defined by use ... not by dictionaries |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5799] | Diverge is still a verb, and divergence still a nown. The dictionaries came later. |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5800] | deviation |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5801x3] | That would work. And it doesn't imply going in a different direction like diverge(nce) does. |
Unless you go back to the latin, at which point both words have the same root: going in a different direction. | |
We have had to break out the thesaurus many times when naming REBOL functions :) | |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5804] | It's my #2 search link in my browser ;-) |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5805x2] | DIVERGENCE is a spot-on name. |
Considering that it seems to return "the point of divergence", i.e. the position where two series start to diverge. | |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5807] | Native english speakers only please :) |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5808x2] | (Says the guy who thinks "diverge" is a noune in usage ;-) |
Sorry, bad typing day. | |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5810] | (Now my non-native brain gets confused: noun, nown, or noune? :) |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5811] | noun. I have been doing manual labor and my hands are a little off today. |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5812] | (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noune) |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5813] | Nice :) |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5814] | Maybe you accidentally offended Maxim :) |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5815] | pronounced noon |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5816] | alternatives: fork, stray, deviate, digress |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5817] | All verbs. Use the noun or adjectival forms. |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5818] | and since we are comparing only two things .. bifurcate |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5819] | so what's the difference between divergence and deviation.... I am straying from the question... I disgress.. ;-) |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5820] | deviation has a statistical meaning |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5821] | true |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5822] | My latin is rusty, but I think that deviate means to go in a different direction, while diverge means to branch. |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5823] | how about "wanda" ... that's a noune |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5824] | So divergence is more accurate than deviation in this case. (I'll try to keep the spelling under control.) |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5825] | or, 'away |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5826] | And deviation is in relation to a "norm". |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5827] | we can play this game all day |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5828] | Deviation is relative to a norm only for statistics. |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5829] | Also for law or sociodynamics. |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5830] | with the statistics use of deviation brought to light ... I revert to divergence. its a more unique term. |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5831] | You deviate from a contract, you deviate from social rules, the right path, etc. |
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