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[!REBOL3]

BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5797]
Then would need the nce. Diverge is still an action word. Divergence 
is the noun.
GrahamC
26-Oct-2010
[5798]
Sorry, language is defined by use ... not by dictionaries
BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5799]
Diverge is still a verb, and divergence still a nown. The dictionaries 
came later.
Maxim
26-Oct-2010
[5800]
deviation
BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5801x3]
That would work. And it doesn't imply going in a different direction 
like diverge(nce) does.
Unless you go back to the latin, at which point both words have the 
same root: going in a different direction.
We have had to break out the thesaurus many times when naming REBOL 
functions :)
Maxim
26-Oct-2010
[5804]
It's my #2 search link in my browser   ;-)
Andreas
26-Oct-2010
[5805x2]
DIVERGENCE is a spot-on name.
Considering that it seems to return "the point of divergence", i.e. 
the position where two series start to diverge.
GrahamC
26-Oct-2010
[5807]
Native english speakers only please :)
BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5808x2]
(Says the guy who thinks "diverge" is a noune in usage ;-)
Sorry, bad typing day.
Andreas
26-Oct-2010
[5810]
(Now my non-native brain gets confused: noun, nown, or noune? :)
BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5811]
noun. I have been doing manual labor and my hands are a little off 
today.
Andreas
26-Oct-2010
[5812]
(http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noune)
BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5813]
Nice :)
Andreas
26-Oct-2010
[5814]
Maybe you accidentally offended Maxim :)
Maxim
26-Oct-2010
[5815]
pronounced   noon
GrahamC
26-Oct-2010
[5816]
alternatives: fork, stray, deviate, digress
BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5817]
All verbs. Use the noun or adjectival forms.
GrahamC
26-Oct-2010
[5818]
and since we are comparing only two things .. bifurcate
Maxim
26-Oct-2010
[5819]
so what's the difference between divergence and deviation.... I am 
straying from the question... I disgress..     ;-)
GrahamC
26-Oct-2010
[5820]
deviation has a statistical meaning
Maxim
26-Oct-2010
[5821]
true
BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5822]
My latin is rusty, but I think that deviate means to go in a different 
direction, while diverge means to branch.
GrahamC
26-Oct-2010
[5823]
how about "wanda" ... that's a noune
BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5824]
So divergence is more accurate than deviation in this case. (I'll 
try to keep the spelling under control.)
GrahamC
26-Oct-2010
[5825]
or, 'away
Andreas
26-Oct-2010
[5826]
And deviation is in relation to a "norm".
GrahamC
26-Oct-2010
[5827]
we can play this game all day
BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5828]
Deviation is relative to a norm only for statistics.
Andreas
26-Oct-2010
[5829]
Also for law or sociodynamics.
Maxim
26-Oct-2010
[5830]
with the statistics use of deviation brought to light ... I revert 
to divergence.  its a more unique term.
Andreas
26-Oct-2010
[5831]
You deviate from a contract, you deviate from social rules, the right 
path, etc.
Maxim
26-Oct-2010
[5832]
rebolers are all deviants.
BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5833]
On a good day :)
GrahamC
26-Oct-2010
[5834x2]
equal? a b
diverge? a b
Fork
26-Oct-2010
[5836]
I missed a lot of this conversation, but saw some mention of NAN 
and INF.  Exceptions by default seem like the natural choice.  Anything 
different could be done with refinements.  divide/symbolic 1 0 ... 
or something?
BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5837]
That is what I was saying about ? in REBOL before. EQUAL? is short 
for EQUIVALENT, and DIVERGE? would be short fot DIVERGENCE. It's 
nonsense in English, but English is just the base language for REBOL 
function names.
Andreas
26-Oct-2010
[5838]
Problem with `diverge?` is that the proposed function will not return 
a boolean, unlike equal?.
BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5839]
Or INDEX?, LENGTH?, SUFFIX?, ...
Andreas
26-Oct-2010
[5840x2]
It returns the first series at the point of divergence.
Yeah, those always have been ill-conceived names.
Maxim
26-Oct-2010
[5842]
exactly what I was pointing out earlier.    index, length suffix 
should have their ?  dropped.
BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5843]
Fork, the Inf and NaN discussion has moved to CC bug#1717.
Andreas
26-Oct-2010
[5844x2]
And use -of instead. But that's another discussion.
It's just that I would not repeat that mistake when introducing new 
names.
BrianH
26-Oct-2010
[5846]
Make that point in bug#1719, where Carl can see it. He tends to let 
us play out these discussions on our own.