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BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5799] | Diverge is still a verb, and divergence still a nown. The dictionaries came later. |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5800] | deviation |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5801x3] | That would work. And it doesn't imply going in a different direction like diverge(nce) does. |
Unless you go back to the latin, at which point both words have the same root: going in a different direction. | |
We have had to break out the thesaurus many times when naming REBOL functions :) | |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5804] | It's my #2 search link in my browser ;-) |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5805x2] | DIVERGENCE is a spot-on name. |
Considering that it seems to return "the point of divergence", i.e. the position where two series start to diverge. | |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5807] | Native english speakers only please :) |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5808x2] | (Says the guy who thinks "diverge" is a noune in usage ;-) |
Sorry, bad typing day. | |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5810] | (Now my non-native brain gets confused: noun, nown, or noune? :) |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5811] | noun. I have been doing manual labor and my hands are a little off today. |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5812] | (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noune) |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5813] | Nice :) |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5814] | Maybe you accidentally offended Maxim :) |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5815] | pronounced noon |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5816] | alternatives: fork, stray, deviate, digress |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5817] | All verbs. Use the noun or adjectival forms. |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5818] | and since we are comparing only two things .. bifurcate |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5819] | so what's the difference between divergence and deviation.... I am straying from the question... I disgress.. ;-) |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5820] | deviation has a statistical meaning |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5821] | true |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5822] | My latin is rusty, but I think that deviate means to go in a different direction, while diverge means to branch. |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5823] | how about "wanda" ... that's a noune |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5824] | So divergence is more accurate than deviation in this case. (I'll try to keep the spelling under control.) |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5825] | or, 'away |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5826] | And deviation is in relation to a "norm". |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5827] | we can play this game all day |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5828] | Deviation is relative to a norm only for statistics. |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5829] | Also for law or sociodynamics. |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5830] | with the statistics use of deviation brought to light ... I revert to divergence. its a more unique term. |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5831] | You deviate from a contract, you deviate from social rules, the right path, etc. |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5832] | rebolers are all deviants. |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5833] | On a good day :) |
GrahamC 26-Oct-2010 [5834x2] | equal? a b |
diverge? a b | |
Fork 26-Oct-2010 [5836] | I missed a lot of this conversation, but saw some mention of NAN and INF. Exceptions by default seem like the natural choice. Anything different could be done with refinements. divide/symbolic 1 0 ... or something? |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5837] | That is what I was saying about ? in REBOL before. EQUAL? is short for EQUIVALENT, and DIVERGE? would be short fot DIVERGENCE. It's nonsense in English, but English is just the base language for REBOL function names. |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5838] | Problem with `diverge?` is that the proposed function will not return a boolean, unlike equal?. |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5839] | Or INDEX?, LENGTH?, SUFFIX?, ... |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5840x2] | It returns the first series at the point of divergence. |
Yeah, those always have been ill-conceived names. | |
Maxim 26-Oct-2010 [5842] | exactly what I was pointing out earlier. index, length suffix should have their ? dropped. |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5843] | Fork, the Inf and NaN discussion has moved to CC bug#1717. |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5844x2] | And use -of instead. But that's another discussion. |
It's just that I would not repeat that mistake when introducing new names. | |
BrianH 26-Oct-2010 [5846] | Make that point in bug#1719, where Carl can see it. He tends to let us play out these discussions on our own. |
PeterWood 26-Oct-2010 [5847] | I notice that the disarm stub function which was useful for running code written to work in R2 under R3 is not included in A109. Is this by design? |
Andreas 26-Oct-2010 [5848] | Yes, Peter. It was intentionally removed in A108 (cf. http://www.curecode.org/rebol3/ticket.rsp?id=1508) |
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