World: r3wp
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Andreas 9-Dec-2010 [6479] | As mentioned by Christian and Jerry, CLEAR works for truncation: >> write %test.txt to-binary "foobar" >> print to-string read %test.txt foobar >> f: open %test.txt >> skip f 3 >> clear f >> close f >> print to-string read %test.txt foo |
Pavel 9-Dec-2010 [6480] | Interesting |
Kaj 9-Dec-2010 [6481] | You'd think that would have to map to the ftruncate() operating system function |
Andreas 9-Dec-2010 [6482x2] | It does. |
https://github.com/carls/R3A110/blob/master/src/os/posix/dev-file.c#L357 | |
Kaj 9-Dec-2010 [6484x3] | Good thing we implemented that in Syllable a few years ago :-) |
I vaguely remember we needed it for Arch, and later for SaMBa | |
Ah, and at first I patched it away in Ruby in its build procedure. That was a long time ago | |
btiffin 9-Dec-2010 [6487] | I've been away kids. And the itch is back. If my goal is embedding REBOL scripting in OpenCOBOL, do I dig into a host kit yet? Can I access REBOL data from the C interface? Plop REBOL data onto the stack? Even bother to think about REBOL as an application extension language? Umm, 64bit GNU/Linux. |
GrahamC 9-Dec-2010 [6488] | Your absence was noted ... we had stand in go-go guys! |
btiffin 9-Dec-2010 [6489] | Go rebols (vote for doc) go! ;) |
Kaj 9-Dec-2010 [6490x2] | Good to see you back :-) |
You definitely need the host kit for those things. You'll have to use it in 32 bits mode for now | |
btiffin 9-Dec-2010 [6492] | Then, I shall wait. I'm still trying to convince the office to lean to more REBOL, but hassles on 64bit FreeBSD put paid to that plan so far. The hassles were not insurmountable or anything, just enough of an annoyance to foster dissetion in the ranks. ... so far ... |
Kaj 9-Dec-2010 [6493] | There should be very little problems with using 32 bits executables on 64 bits Linux |
btiffin 9-Dec-2010 [6494] | Well, installing lib32 compat on FreeBSD was the first thing to get everyone's kackles up. ;) My little propagation routines still get to run, but usage pretty much stopped at the first app, as I got the 'not so much REBOL' from the higher ups, (having seen the kackles - that was all it took) |
Kaj 9-Dec-2010 [6495x2] | But you want to use it on Linux, right? That usually comes with 32 bits support installed |
A better solution is to get rid of the higher-ups, of course | |
btiffin 9-Dec-2010 [6497x2] | Our production servers are FreeBSD. |
And, nah, I like my higher ups just fine. :) | |
Kaj 9-Dec-2010 [6499x2] | Right, but you just want to get started now, don't you? |
The BMW has arrived now. Don't let it pass you by :-) | |
btiffin 9-Dec-2010 [6501] | Too late ... for now ... I wrote the data shuffle code over a year ago. And until I can show a hassle free install (by others), I don't want to push for REBOL training again. When 3.0 gels a bit, I'll stop say ... for now ... and ask, now Canwecanwecanwe? :) It will come. |
Kaj 9-Dec-2010 [6502] | By that time, you'll still have to go through the same path of creating a COBOL interface |
btiffin 9-Dec-2010 [6503] | Oh, sorry Kaj, two different topics really. OpenCOBOL is for fun. Getting REBOL (not embedded, but full on REBOL apps) in the shop has been a slow starter so far. Not out, just down. ... for now ... |
Kaj 9-Dec-2010 [6504x2] | Yeah, that has been a difficult proposition for a very long time |
I'm only now able to move from Ruby to REBOL myself | |
Pekr 10-Dec-2010 [6506] | Kaj: "I'm only now able to move from Ruby to REBOL myself" ... what is the reasong/condition, which allowed you to move to REBOL? Just curious ... |
Kaj 10-Dec-2010 [6507x8] | I've always needed it to run on both Syllable and Linux. I finally got R3 to work on Syllable a year ago, but it had proved buggy when porting my CMS |
Most things I still can't do with it, because there's no GUI | |
Then eventually, the open source issue will remain, because I can't use it for Syllable system tools | |
The lack of GUI means only web apps can be made, but there wasn't an acceptable web framework for REBOL | |
I used QuarterMaster in the past year, but I can't take that and Cheyenne with me now that R3 finallt starts working | |
Hence I'm forced to make my own CMS | |
And I'm forced to keep it working on both R2 and R3, so I can't use new R3 features | |
Not exactly a sales story, is it? | |
Awi 12-Dec-2010 [6515] | Is there anything like WAIT/ANY [3 read http://www.rebol.com]. It would either return none if 3 seconds elapsed, or the content of www.rebol.com ? |
Maxim 12-Dec-2010 [6516] | as in a timeout? |
Kaj 13-Dec-2010 [6517] | I guess so. I think it has to be programmed by opening in async mode |
Maxim 13-Dec-2010 [6518] | yeah, I did a few tests using async, but its a bit tricky, nothing as elegant as what Awi proposes/asks |
Jerry 13-Dec-2010 [6519] | is there a way that I can do to pre-allocate a huge file? Pre-allocated file will have a continuous disk space, which makes seeking fast. |
Maxim 13-Dec-2010 [6520x2] | something like? : write %file head insert "" 1000000 |
oops... write %file head insert/dup "" " " 1000000 | |
Jerry 13-Dec-2010 [6522] | Maxim, I am not sure if doing that will have a continuous disk space. Why don't we have something like this: make %file 100000000 |
Maxim 13-Dec-2010 [6523] | usually it will depend on disk fragmentation. I'm not sure all OS allow you to force a contiguous disk area. on any OSes which allow it, it could be a good suggestion for R3. |
Jerry 13-Dec-2010 [6524] | Actually, I am making a NoSQL in R3 for Chinese Social Network Analysis. I have more than 20,000,000 records, and every records might need a few KB. |
Maxim 13-Dec-2010 [6525x2] | you should post a CC wish ticket for it. |
(and its a good idea to give some details as to why you need (in the CC ticket) this in order to give persepective on the ticket) | |
Jerry 13-Dec-2010 [6527] | When data are not much, my NoSQL was very fast, I called it Lightning DB. Now with so much data, It's very slow, and I call it Snail DB. :-( |
Maxim 13-Dec-2010 [6528] | 20,000,000 * 1kb * n = a massive file! :-) |
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