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Andreas 13-Dec-2010 [6646x2] | Already did. Also added a (rather unlovingly formatted) comment to the map! docs. |
(http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/datatypes/map.html) | |
Andreas 14-Dec-2010 [6648x2] | Here's a plot of the DT for each "put" operation (m/(i): i) for 19M puts: http://bolka.at/2010/rebol3/tmp/raw19.png |
Will do a properly sampled one tomorrow. | |
Jerry 14-Dec-2010 [6650] | >> to-integer #{ffff} == 65535 ; how can I make it -1, is there a to-signed-integer function? |
PeterWood 14-Dec-2010 [6651] | I believe that integer!s in R3 are signed 64-bit integers. >> to-integer #{ffffffffffffffff} == -1 |
Oldes 14-Dec-2010 [6652] | They are, but that's the question is different... we should be able to do such a conversions somehow. Don't know how at this moment. |
Andreas 14-Dec-2010 [6653] | >> sext32: func [x] [32768 xor x - 32768] >> sext32 to-integer #{ffff} == -1 |
Oldes 14-Dec-2010 [6654x2] | something like: >> shift to-integer #{FFFF0000 00000000} -48 == -1 |
:) | |
Andreas 14-Dec-2010 [6656x2] | sorry, should be sext16 |
>> sext16: func [x] [32768 xor x - 32768] >> sext16 to-integer #{ffff} == -1 | |
Oldes 14-Dec-2010 [6658x2] | >> shift shift to-integer #{FFFF} 48 -48 == -1 >> shift shift to-integer #{0001} 48 -48 == 1 |
My version seems to be a little bit faster: >> sext16_v1: func [x] [32768 xor (to integer! x) - 32768] >> sext16_v2: func [x] [shift shift to integer! x 48 -48] >> dt [sext16_v1 #{ffff}] == 0:00:00.00001 >> dt [sext16_v2 #{ffff}] == 0:00:00.000009 | |
Andreas 14-Dec-2010 [6660x7] | Your persone is a little bit saner as well :) |
version* | |
Well, another idea for the map! performance degradation: the actual hash function used is flawed for >>2^24 keys. | |
Another indication: plain CHECKSUM computes a 24-bit CRC | |
I'm now quite confident that this is the underlying problem. | |
Conclusion: R3 map! is currently basically unusable for 2^24+ entries. | |
It should be rather easy to fix, though. | |
Pavel 14-Dec-2010 [6667x2] | 2 Andreas: 2 ** 26 limit is hardcoded into checksum/hash function IMO, this hash function is used for calculating respective key hashes in map! datatype I think, nevertheless this hashing is pretty fast and could be used in in-file hashes, there the limit can be theoretically limiting. But still 2 ** 26 hash table is pretty huge indeed. |
For 2**25 and 2**26 hash table sizes the hash function gives different hash numbers, so I think the limit is 2**26 (sorry I missed your observation few lines before you are right off course) | |
PatrickP61 16-Dec-2010 [6669] | Does anyone have any information / Documentation on how to invoke a separate R2 program from R3 and/or vice versa? In other words, is it possible to have an R3 script running and start up a separate instance of another R2 and/or R3 program to complete some tasks and then resume the original script? Is it possible to time the event to run in a pre-determined amount of time? Say like 5 seconds for the second program to run, if not, then show some error message. What, if any, communications can occur between the programs, passing arguments, blocks, files, urls, etc. |
Rebolek 16-Dec-2010 [6670] | You can do that with CALL and communicate via TCP. |
PatrickP61 16-Dec-2010 [6671] | Thank you Rebolek -- I'll check that out. |
Oldes 18-Dec-2010 [6672] | Let's have: o: context [a: 1 b: 2] I can do: values-of o ;== [1 2] Can I update these values somehow to get o == make object! [a: 3 b: 4] just using block of values [3 4]? |
BrianH 18-Dec-2010 [6673] | v: values-of o ... change v ... set o v |
Oldes 18-Dec-2010 [6674] | Great... and it is possible in R2 as well.. I'm still learning:) |
Steeve 18-Dec-2010 [6675x2] | shortcut: get o == [1 2] |
if you want to set an object with another one, better to use resolve/all o1 o2 | |
Oldes 18-Dec-2010 [6677] | I wanted to avoid using objects as an extension's command argument, but I decided that it will be more user friendly to use object directly anyway... more work on C side, but it worths for it. |
Awi 20-Dec-2010 [6678] | Is there a reason why map! does not allow date!, time! or pair! as keys? |
Oldes 20-Dec-2010 [6679] | Is there a reason why codecs (like image loading) are not in host part? |
Pekr 20-Dec-2010 [6680] | Oldes - AFAIK, codecs are going to be completly overhauled. We wanted streaming support, and current implementation is imo rather primitive. Carl agreed in one roadmap document release, but that file is gone (we are waiting for new one). I hope proper port based API will be available. So - on one hand it is a good thing it is not part of the host-kit, as we arelly need one standardised API, not myriad of different hack-ins, but otoh Carl could benefit from some community experiments in that regards .... |
Henrik 20-Dec-2010 [6681] | Just curious: Is there a maximum length to a word name? can you TO-WORD a 1 GB string, assuming it's valid? |
Maxim 20-Dec-2010 [6682] | easily checked with a little powers of two loop ;-0 |
Henrik 20-Dec-2010 [6683] | don't have the memory :-) |
Steeve 20-Dec-2010 [6684] | have a break :-) |
Henrik 20-Dec-2010 [6685] | I'm writing docs. Just getting warmed up. :-) |
Sunanda 20-Dec-2010 [6686] | Max word lenth is 255 or 256 in R3 |
Henrik 20-Dec-2010 [6687] | ok, thanks. that's fair enough. |
Sunanda 20-Dec-2010 [6688] | http://www.curecode.org/rebol3/ticket.rsp?id=580&cursor=1 |
Steeve 20-Dec-2010 [6689] | Btw Henrik, I read your GUI R3 code. It's R2 fashioned. You missed some R3 tricks. I suppose you already know it though ;-) |
Henrik 20-Dec-2010 [6690] | Steeve, depends on which parts you read. |
Steeve 20-Dec-2010 [6691x4] | I give some examples. |
The 'merge-values mezz is actually like the native 'resolve | |
you use a lot the old idiom select block 'word vs block/:word (which is faster and more compact) | |
(sorry it's: select block word) | |
Henrik 20-Dec-2010 [6695] | it's quite possible that some functions are from the original R3 GUI, long before newer tricks were involved. |
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