World: r3wp
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BrianH 17-Feb-2010 [882] | Unless you want no evaluation at all, not just for words, then use a get-word parameter. Yes, that's an awkward way to refer to it - it's already been reported. |
Ladislav 18-Feb-2010 [883] | In R2 I could write: in object 'self, but no longer in R3. What's the equivalent in R3? - I do not understand all that "harakiri" going on in R3 with 'self. Nevertheless, the expression: first bind [self] object works |
Paul 18-Feb-2010 [884] | Self is still there but within its own context which is the way it should be. |
Ladislav 18-Feb-2010 [885] | Nevertheless, I think, that the fact, that first bind [self] object] works, while in object 'self does not, is at least surprising. What is that good for? |
Paul 18-Feb-2010 [886] | Probably to do with the new changes allowing us to protect object code. |
Ladislav 18-Feb-2010 [887] | Inconsistent |
Paul 18-Feb-2010 [888] | what is? - be more specific. |
Ladislav 18-Feb-2010 [889] | See above |
Paul 18-Feb-2010 [890] | Again, it may have to do with protection features. |
Ladislav 18-Feb-2010 [891] | No, as long as one of the above expression works, while the other does not |
Paul 18-Feb-2010 [892] | I don't know how you can say "NO" Ladislav. |
Ladislav 18-Feb-2010 [893] | just easy: the functions are equivalent for me - I do not mind whether I use the former or the latter. If one of them works, while the other does not, it is inconsistent, and not protecting |
Paul 18-Feb-2010 [894] | Protect feature is still evolving at last check so I don't see how you can say it isn't part of that direction. |
Ladislav 18-Feb-2010 [895] | well, "part of that direction" - maybe, just not working in this case, as demonstrated |
Pekr 18-Feb-2010 [896] | Then CureCode it, and maybe Carl will answer that one :-) |
Gregg 18-Feb-2010 [897] | Brian, if "Returns TRUE if the values are equal and of the same datatype & case." is OK, but "Returns TRUE if the values are equal and of the same datatype and case." is not, that's where I think uor priorities are out of order. Maybe the first thing we should do is write a clear goal for doc strings. What is their main purpose and what constraints should be placed on them for each purpose (or maybe I just haven't seen the doc that does this)? For example, are they be limited for console output only when listed with other funcs, or also when used with HELP individually? Should ? be short help and ??? link to a detailed help page for funcs? If console group list is the constraining factor, can it truncate and ellipsize longer strings? |
Robert 18-Feb-2010 [898x2] | Is there a difference between an object! or context! Any rules wheren to use one or the other? I use contexts more likea "class"(data, functions) and objects mor like blocks. |
I think that modules are the way to go, but than why we have context! and object! ? | |
Steeve 18-Feb-2010 [900] | wait... there is not context! datatype... |
Robert 18-Feb-2010 [901x2] | Hmm... true. So CONTEXT seems to be just a short-cut. |
How about an unblock function? This would help in cases like: reduce [words-of my-object] == [[my-words...]] reduce [unblock words-of my-object] == [mywords ...] | |
Geomol 18-Feb-2010 [903] | Your unblock returns a series of words. You need to have them in a series (a block). You can do these: first reduce [words-of my-object] or simple words-of my-object I can't see, an unblock would be possible. |
Robert 18-Feb-2010 [904] | word-of returns a block |
Geomol 18-Feb-2010 [905x4] | yes |
So unblock words-of .... should return what? | |
Remember every function and operator in REBOL returns exactly one return value. Some would argue, PRINT doesn't, but it returns a value of the unset! datatype. If you need to return many words, you have to put them in one return value, like a block. | |
>> type? print "Hello, World!" Hello, World! == unset! | |
Robert 18-Feb-2010 [909x2] | Example: I want to get ["some string" word1 word2 word3] If I write: reduce ["some string" words-of ...] will return: ["some string" [word1 word2 word3]] |
So I need to get rid of the 2nd block. | |
Geomol 18-Feb-2010 [911x5] | You can get that by: reduce ["some string" first worlds-of ...] |
sorry | |
haha, late here. Let me think. | |
Try this: join ["some string"] words-of ... | |
I see, what you want, but you can't do that in REBOL, because a function can't return more than one value. | |
Robert 18-Feb-2010 [916] | Yep, used the JOIN as well. But thought it's a generic pattern. |
Izkata 18-Feb-2010 [917] | Has 'compose been removed or changed in R3? compose [ "some string" (words-of ...) ] == [ "some string" word1 word2 word3 ] |
Geomol 18-Feb-2010 [918x2] | COMPOSE is in R3, and it's a way to get the desired result. |
You can also use a function like this: flatten: func [block /local result] [ result: clear [] forall block [ append result either block! = type? block/1 [ to paren! block/1 ][ block/1 ] ] result ] >> flatten [1 [a 2] 3] == [1 a 2 3] Can only flatten one level. If you have blocks within blocks within blocks, you need another loop or make it recursive. | |
Graham 18-Feb-2010 [920] | Any reason why dates can't be determined by the system preferences so that 1/12/2010 is 12-Jan-2010 ? |
Geomol 18-Feb-2010 [921x2] | I don't see a techinal reason. It could be implemented, but will slow date recognision down a little bit. I've considered sort of the same for thousand separators, so these could be recognized: 1.200,00 1,200.00 But will slow scanner a little bit and make code more complex. |
*technical* | |
Pekr 18-Feb-2010 [923] | Why is REBOL3/Docs Recent changes subpage protected by password? This page is essential to me, as well as recent changes page on wiki. This is the only way to find out, if there is something new happening ... |
Geomol 18-Feb-2010 [924] | Graham, about the date thing. It's also a potential problem, if you forget to set the system prefs back and then run some script. Your dates would suddently behave strangely. |
Graham 18-Feb-2010 [925] | most people don't change their date preferenes |
Geomol 18-Feb-2010 [926x2] | :-) |
Let's say, you did change you date pref once. Then a month later you read some data with some dates. Now, what format would you guess, those dates were in? | |
Graham 18-Feb-2010 [928] | slow down date recognition a little ... I don't think so. It could be vectored on rebol start up. |
Geomol 18-Feb-2010 [929] | Hm, maybe we don't talk about the same here? I understood you, as all dates should be recognized MM/DD/YYYY, if you so choose? |
Graham 18-Feb-2010 [930x2] | Or, you could set the date preference as the top of the script |
You should be able to also set the date window ... | |
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