World: r3wp

Yeah, I sent Carl a complete example of how to achieve what he wants 
on OSX. But up until today he didn't get around to look into it.

What toolchain is used on Amiga?

gcc

+ binutils?

yes

What binary format is used?

ELF?

yes, the good old elf

Cool.

should be pretty easy I figure

Should be easy to get going then, yes.

What version of GCC do you have available?

from memory.. 4.0.3 is the current baseline

I really just think that maintaining several repos is currently to 
much work since it changes sooo oftern.  once the hostkit stabilizes 
a bit (within two or three releases is my guess) he should get around 
to concentrating on getting other distros their .so  


The amiga port was probably a good exercise in making the core lib 
even more cpu/platform agnostic.

You can't reproduce Core from the host kit? I understand that you 
can't make official binaries, but there shouldn't be anything stopping 
you from creating a single program that does everything Core does 
from the host kit once the host kit is out of alpha.

Well, there is. You can't statically link dynamic libraries.

The restrictions you are talking about are temporary. Just because 
static libraries aren't provided in this experimental release doesn't 
mean they won't be in the final release.

I'm just stating the facts.

I imagine one idea would be to provide a single executable which 
contains r3 core and the app to keep things as simple as possible 
for some devices.

The main reason you are unlikely to get static libraries of a107 
is because we are busy working on a108, not because of any other 
restriction.

Is that an official statement?

I can't make that, but haven't heard anything that implies otherwise.

This all seems very cutting edge so I expect anything could change 
(i.e. alpha).

It is cutting edge indeed :)

so much it bleeds  ;-)

Hmm... REBREQ looks very familiar.. very much like the Amiga's standard 
IO request :-)

hehe... that's not where similarities end ....  ;-)

Besides the r3 core, what other bits would RT be providing for these 
kits?  include files?

What you see in the .tar.gz is the complete hostkit. Sources, headers, 
and the proprietary libr3 binary blob.

so the idea would be to create sub-dirs with whatever platform-specific 
stuff needs to be there... simple

oh, and a makefile I expect (or whatever build system)

Yes. But the makefile provided with the Linux hostkit (in make-gcc/) 
should get you pretty far.

I think gmake is a good common denominator these days for build systems

Agreed. The current makefiles are written for a much lower common 
denominator, though.

lower than gnu make?

Yeah.

that takes me back :)

Think HP-UX make from 1992 or something :)

_That_ low :)

do I have to?

Hopefully not.

hehe

I used hpux in the good old days... no thanks :)

Aargh! http://www.rebol.com/r3/downloads/r3-host-kit-a107-42.tar.gz
defies automated downloading

ttfn.. this looks like it will be a fun little project.. just need 
to get the blessed libr3.so from carl

Got it built on Syllable Server

I am not sure it is realistic to get gfx going under the Amiga for 
the Amiwest. OTOH IIRC AmigaOS has ported AGG already, so maybe we 
will be lucky :-)

Got it to run on Syllable Server, but it now has the irritating property 
of requiring the interpreter library to be in your current working 
directory that you start REBOL from. So I patched that away

It segfaults on loading R3 Chat. I don't think that was the case 
with the previous host kit I had (alpha 98, I think). It also works 
with the RT A107 binary

R3 Chat works fine for me, with Linux binaries built from the A107 
hostkit.