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BrianH
1-Nov-2010
[653x2]
They only use the QNX kernel, not the full OS.
R3 is not an app, it is used to make apps. And if the apps on the 
system are written in AIR, then R3 would need to integrate with that. 
Or we can go Oldes' route.
Pekr
1-Nov-2010
[655]
I hope you know that RIM has bought QNX from Harman Kardon?
BrianH
1-Nov-2010
[656x3]
Yes, but not for the full OS. BB just needs the low-level stuff. 
They are providing their own user space.
I saw the demo of the PlayBook.
We can probably make an r3lib for QNX on that hardware and it will 
work on the PlayBook, but the host part of the code will likely need 
to be very different between the PlayBook and regular QNX.
Maxim
1-Nov-2010
[659]
Air probably is better (more polished) than their own gui architecture. 
 though they might have had really cool opportunities if they used 
elate instead.  things like flipping an application's gui from one 
tablet to another.

nothing prevents them from adding elate later.
BrianH
1-Nov-2010
[660]
And nothing prevents them from having the (much better) QNX programmers 
do the work :)
Maxim
1-Nov-2010
[661]
yep.
Pekr
1-Nov-2010
[662]
elate? From Tao? It does not exist anymore ...
Maxim
1-Nov-2010
[663]
ah.. yes... thats' true... I'm mixing the names... sorry... its photon.
ssolie
1-Nov-2010
[664x2]
Tao? they were going to be the kernel for the new AmigaAnywhere platform... 
good times :)
(yes, it went defunct a while back)
Carl
2-Nov-2010
[666x3]
http://github.com/carls/R3A110-- a temp test area for Host-Kit A110
Only the linux libr3.so at this time. Will attempt to add the windows 
lib.
Windows lib added to repository
Kaj
3-Nov-2010
[669x2]
So the Amiga is first from non mainstream OSes. Which one do we choose 
next? Any mobile OS takers here? :-)
Petr, thanks for considering Syllable mainstream :-)
Pekr
3-Nov-2010
[671x2]
Kaj - I consider Syllable being covered, no? :-) I know there is 
not specific Syllable port, but it works somehow, no? :-)
Of course - from non-mainstream OSes, I would choose - QNX, Haiku, 
Aros, Syllable, MorphOS .....
Carl
4-Nov-2010
[673]
Here is the problem with OS X host-kit release:
http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/osx-linker-symbols.html
GrahamC
4-Nov-2010
[674x2]
So, we can have Android instead?
or ARM?
Andreas
4-Nov-2010
[676]
Carl, what version of GCC are you using on OSX?
What happens if instead of
  

  gcc -dynamiclib -exported_symbols_list exported -o a.lib a.o b.o

you do

  gcc -dynamiclib -Wl,-x -o a.lib a.o b.o
Carl
4-Nov-2010
[677]
Got an ARM?
GrahamC
4-Nov-2010
[678]
and a LEG
Carl
4-Nov-2010
[679x2]
Was waiting for that. ;)
checking...
GrahamC
4-Nov-2010
[681x2]
I have this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2
Intel XScale IXP420 CPU
Carl
4-Nov-2010
[683]
Andreas: same result.
Andreas
4-Nov-2010
[684]
What version of GCC?
GrahamC
4-Nov-2010
[685]
The Plug computers all use ARM too
Andreas
4-Nov-2010
[686]
(gcc -v)
Carl
4-Nov-2010
[687]
gcc or -Wl,-v ?
Andreas
4-Nov-2010
[688]
gcc
Carl
4-Nov-2010
[689]
gcc 4.0.1
Andreas
4-Nov-2010
[690]
ld -v?
Carl
4-Nov-2010
[691]
cctools-590.23.2
Andreas
4-Nov-2010
[692x2]
ouch
gcc -Wl,-v also results in cctools?
Carl
4-Nov-2010
[694x2]
collect version 4.0.1
and then same as ld above
Andreas
4-Nov-2010
[696]
If you download this:
http://bolka.at/2009/misc/exports.tar.gz

extract and make
Carl
4-Nov-2010
[697]
what is it?
Andreas
4-Nov-2010
[698x2]
foo.c, bar.c and a makefile
should actually be pretty much the same as what you are doing. only 
that i have this exact constellations of files working fine on osx 
with gcc 4.0.1.
Carl
4-Nov-2010
[700]
1 min
Andreas
4-Nov-2010
[701]
will have to check what linker that used, though
Carl
4-Nov-2010
[702]
same result as given in my example