World: r3wp

meey ==> meet

Let them die in peace :-)

henrik:R3/Lobby>> help
sh: xdg-open: command not found
sh: x-www-browser: command not found
** Access error: external process failed: "Undefined error: 0"

** Where: browse parse try either either forever command-loop make 
context do catch either either -apply- do try chat
** Near: browse help-url

Seems these are broken in A110 for OSX.

Oldes - Carl seems to propose to export your requested functionality, 
if needed, so that it does not break with next internal changes. 
So please react accordingly in R3 chat = make your wish clear :-)

Henrik, opening a browser is not really implemented in the OS X port. 
The methods that are tried are Linux conventions

Kaj, it used to work, so I'm considering it a bug.

Ah, I didn't know that

>> browse http://www.google.com
sh: xdg-open: command not found
sh: x-www-browser: command not found
** Access error: external process failed: "Undefined error: 0"
** Where: browse
** Near: browse http://www.google.com

>> browse http://www.google.com
== none

A97 pops up a browser window.

Must have gotten mixed up with the general POSIX port, then

possibly.

Do you have another explanation?

since browse is native, I can't see what the problem else might be. 
no visible source change.

Well, the host kit has been heavily rearranged

You can see the native source code there

I'm trying to run the hello world example at http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/gui/guide.html

Here is what happens when I try load-gui:
>> load-gui
i
Fetching GUI...
GUI Version: 0.2.1

(Developer test GUI theme)

** Script error: expected command! not font

 ** Where: size-text font-char-size? make make-text-style parse fontize 
 do do either load-gui

** Near: size-text gob

Is this a host-kit issue or ?

this is old Carl's gui. I am not sure it works, most probably it 
does not. Go into R3 GUI group here, and find some of Henrik's links 
and download RM Assets' GUI

http://94.145.78.91/files/r3/gui/r3-gui.r3

Yeah .. old GUI code

Thanks guys. GUI seems to function now after changing the fonts. 
I left a comment in REBOL3 GUI. Now I need to make the buttons actually 
work (more event work to do).

I'm really happy that someone is porting the host-kit to an alien 
host.


1) it proves that the design was pretty well thought out to begin 
with

2) might convince people that porting actually is possible, without 
much help from RT.
3) shows that it doesn't require 100 programmers 6 months

4) shows how Carl is cooperative with host-kit issues, even when 
one isn't in the "inner circle"

5) The amiga being such a different beast, its a good way to find 
any problems and make it a better API overall for all platforms.

We could use a Haiku or AROS person as well.

Yes ... but prefereably Android, Windows Mobile 6.x, ARM embedded 
:-)

Isn't WM6.x effectively dead? MS moved to 7 and I think it's not 
compatible.

effectively yes, but tens of millions of devices out there. WinCE 
will probably stay too. Well, this was my preference because I use 
Touch Pro2, but if we decide against it, I might buy different phone, 
although there is now no alternative to such a gem like Touch Pro2 
(full qwerty)

Win7 Mo is a toy OS, as iOS is. If someone is able to port it to 
such phones, it will be good, but dunno how difficult is it going 
to be, or if it is even allowed ...

Henrik: I think we should focus on a more mobile-oriented target 
next. Haiku could be interesting given its unique API. AROS is just 
an Amiga clone so I don't see much value in that one from a host 
kit testing point of view.

ssolie, yes, true. I suppose first goal would be an ARM port.

yeah, the ARM would allow us to use R3 on iphone and possibly Android, 
though the Android API is JAVA so it might be complicated to link 
into the GUi and stuff.

proper linux and osx ports would probably preferrable first :)

I may be missing something fundamental, but


1) am I supposed to be able to build a A110 r3.exe from the sources 
at github.com/carls/R3A110 on Windows with MinGW and gcc? The gcc 
makefile differs in a lot of places from earlier versions (A109 and 
below) and even seems to generate some .so's instead of .dll's. It 
fails for me with 

gcc  -c -O1 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -Wno-pointer-sign -I ../src/include/ 
 -o obj/host-main.o ../src/os/host-main.c

cc1.exe: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-pointer-sign"
before doing anything.


2) given that I somehow manage to build it and include my own changes 
in a clone of that repo, what happens to them if once there's a A111 
repo? I don't see how a A110 repo could be turned into a A111 repo 
- I would have expected to have a R3 repo on github and to have commits 
tagged as constituting a alpha version like A110, A110 etc.

re 2) as the docs clearly state in multiple places, this is not the 
final repo

re 1) nope, there's currently no win32 makefile included

re 2), yes, I've read that, but just assumed sometime in the near 
future there's the same repo in an official place. Good to hear it's 
not like that.

the final repo will probably be rebol/r3-host-kit

re 1) Good to hear, too, now I can stop trying. ;-)

i have local changes to facilitate building a110 on win32, maybe 
i'll get around to publish them in the next few days

I have to catch up to what happened in the last weeks, haven't had 
much time to follow ... Thanks, Andreas.

contact me privately if you want them straight away :)

No need for that, I can wait. I won't have too much time anyway, 
it's just that I don't want to fall behind with my ODBC extension, 
and A109 is lacking some functionality that A110 should already supply.

I received some critics about promising but not releasing the OpenGL 
test prototype so I decided to release what I have now. You can get 
it from here:

http://cyphre.mysteria.cz/tests/r3gl.zip

for more info please read the readme.txt inside the archive.

GFX benchmark result
0:01:17.748 5.144 FPS

in VirtualBox

R3    = 0:00:05.891 67.9 FPS
R3gl = 0:00:06.688 59.808 FPS

R3 (2.100.107)      - 0:00:07.367 54.296 FPS
R3GL (2.100.110) - 0:00:06.376 62.735 FPS

With updated version from Cyphre:
R3gl - 0:00:03.234 123.685 FPS

Sadly, I have the same result for both versions ...

r3.exe |  r3gl.exe
0:00:02.853 140.203 FPS | 0:00:03.056 130.890 FPS
0:00:02.964 134.952 FPS | 0:00:02.806 142.551 FPS
0:00:02.823 141.693 FPS | 0:00:02.833 141.193 FPS
0:00:03.043 131.449 FPS | 0:00:02.763 144.770 FPS
0:00:02.964 134.952 FPS | 0:00:02.837 140.994 FPS
0:00:02.948 135.685 FPS | 0:00:02.784 143.678 FPS

You can try do download the zip again as I did. There was a wrong 
version.

btw... the r3.exe which is in the zip now is probably also oGL version