World: r3wp

You realise that you can click on the headings and they expand to 
show more detail?

One of the things I like about Git, and am quite proud of, is the 
data structures are simple and you can reimplement it if you wish. 
It's a well-defined data model. There are Git-related projects like 
GUI tools, for example, with the Eclipse IDE.

   http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/print/9126619/Q_A_Linux_founder_Linus_Torvalds_talks_about_open_source_identity

Rebolgit?

Yeah, would be lovely :)

Yup, I read inside all the headings. I've just seen similar arguments 
against Git.

I've said before that a concrete and vetted reimplementation of an 
unnecessarily complicated (but popular) tool in Rebol to show how 
teeny it could get would spark great interest.

Another advantage of popularity is alternate implementations. There 
are even Java and .NET reimplementations of Git (that are likely 
smaller than the original Git even if you include the Java or .NET 
runtimes).

But doing one in REBOL is likely a good idea.

http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0349.html

Linktext says "gituhb", though the link works...

To git public comments on using git and github.

hit f5

Very nice to hear that git has simple data structures.

Will check back here tomorrow.

The underlying design is extremly pragmatic and simple.

(Check your PM, before you leave.)

yeah  ;-)

OK, github - what's the future of R3 Chat now? :-)

let's face realities ... r3chat has been in existence for how long 
now?  And there's hardly anything posted to it.

It may still have a future for the next Altme

So.. time to learn yet another source control system?

Unless you already know Git

I don't.

and... not just learn, but install clients for it.

Git is not particularly difficult in and of itself, but the model 
people typically use in GitHub adds a little layer of complexity 
to it with "pull requests" and things... the good news is that with 
a little patience and asking the large community for help you can 
get things going.

Quite a few people here know it ... so don't worry

I really enjoy the GitHub ability to have conversations attached 
to lines in checkins.  (Gitorious has this also.)  Fantastic for 
code review.  And because of the way it works where you have to pull 
in patches explicity, you can review things and have people go back 
to the drawing board before you'll actually accept the change...

There's a wide variety of models you can use.  If you really want 
to, you can authorize people other than yourself with write access 
to your repository and it then works a little more like traditional 
centralized source control.

and of course you can Fork your own repository off the main one

btw - can Tortoise SVN be used as a GIT client, or is that something 
different? I like how I upgraded RebGUI - what was the system RebGUI 
used based upon?

There is TortoiseGIT: http://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/

Henrik, you could start by putting the R3-GUI into Git!

I'll see if there is anyone interested in exporting it, but I'm afraid 
the source would be constantly out of sync with what we have in RM 
Asset's repository.

what does Robert use?

... but you would not have to constantly announce it - it could save 
you a bit of work, no?

Pekr, that's simply a snapshot, which takes a minute to do, thanks 
to our build system.

GrahamC, RM Asset uses SVN.

there's likely an automatic tool to export from SVN to git

distributed source controls are much more flexible and easy to use 
than centralized ones like svn.

there is no concept I have to put it *the* repository.

its easier to do a grid of different setups. not just a linear sequence 
of versions.

I haven't yet seen a good argument that Git is better (than Hg, at 
least)

 - Brian... so... people who have used both for years can be just 
 ignored I guess.


Just read how they work, if it's not obvious why GIT is better, then 
I don't know what to say.

I don't have experience with Git(only used Hg) and I have nothing 
against learning and using it. The only thing I hate about it so 
far is the lost 1GB!! of diskspace after installing TortoiseGit for 
Windows :)

holy cow ... 1GB !

I mean... didn't I use an OS that fit on a 512kb rom just 10 years 
ago... seems like a lifetime ago.

well, that's all the msys stuff that is needed to run the git, unfortunately

this aproach is like 'hey, you need the whole OS for my app, I don't 
care what you are using"

The idea of GIT might be good, but where do we end up, if we suddenly 
rely on 3-5 different systems that require a 10GB installation of 
all sorts of unmanagable components?

once we have ssh on r3 (in whatever form) I think we should be able 
to build the entire git toolset with REBOL at a fraction of msys 
stuff.  I already did a complete source control system (though with 
a completely different model) called distro-bot and its hardly 1GB!

rebol in and of itself already does most of the low-level OS stuff... 
just two days ago... I used R2 as a delete function in order to polish 
a windows GCC script.  this strikes me as a similar situation where 
rebol could be used to probably replace a sizeable portion of the 
msys stuff... though it might not be as fast and optimised... that 
I do concede.