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[!REBOL3 Source Control] How to manage build process
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BrianH 29-Oct-2010 [239] | I would recommend using Unix line endings in the repo, whatever you like locally, and just not allow script checksums or compression in the official repo. |
Andreas 29-Oct-2010 [240] | Agreed. Would be my choice as well. |
Fork 29-Oct-2010 [241x3] | Yup. |
Want to reiterate: Bravo for taking this step, you guys. | |
I know it's hard to use an unfamiliar tool, and I empathize with BrianH's observations about how Linus's Git implementation does have a hefty dependency stack (if you don't use Linux where all that stuff is taken for granted). If you're trying to stage a revolution in software methodology it might seem a bit like you're sleeping with the enemy... | |
BrianH 29-Oct-2010 [244] | I have a github account now: BrianHawley. Next week I will be putting up repos for R2/Forward and the loadable version of R3's module system. |
Fork 29-Oct-2010 [245] | There'll certainly be things you want changed and improved, and I think the best way to do that is to insinuate Rebol into the predominant toolchain rather than see it as its own completely parallel universe. Github itself is based on Ruby on Rails, but they're using a python syntax colorizer. If a tool is good, it can get slipstreamed in... and Rebol is so small that it could do the same, if it just mellowed out and became a little less prickly... |
Oldes 29-Oct-2010 [246] | Is it possible that if we add enough REBOL scripts, GitHub associates .r extension to REBOL? |
Fork 29-Oct-2010 [247x2] | Rebol is not the only language where file extension issues come up, but they're trying to take the sort of Apple philosophy of "we'll figure it out" as opposed to there being a web of settings. It's just not high on their priority list to "sense" whether a file is Rebol or not. |
But long term that's what they want, to sniff and guess instead of offer settings. The GitHub people are very pragmatic, and opinionated, and (in my experience) quick and efficient. | |
BrianH 29-Oct-2010 [249] | The new default lookup extension for IMPORT is .reb, so maybe we can use that, or .r2 or .r3 for version-specific code. |
Fork 29-Oct-2010 [250x2] | I saw the .reb thing. They would probably do that. They've already given Rebol .r2, .r3, and .rebol ... tekkub and I seem to have a little bit of a rapport now so I could probably ask him to do .reb too |
But still, why not .rebol ? | |
BrianH 29-Oct-2010 [252] | But you have to remember that R is really established, so it will be hard to take .r away from them in Github. |
Andreas 29-Oct-2010 [253] | (-> "Source Control") |
Fork 29-Oct-2010 [254x3] | They were talking about recognizing the rebol header, that's what they want to do, they just don't have the priority. |
I imagine that if RT said "hey we'd like to be your customers and pay you for a closed source hosting account of capacity X" then for some X they'd accept adding that sensor to the system as a priority. | |
Without that, they tend to their paying clients priorities first, I think. | |
BrianH 29-Oct-2010 [257] | Good point :) |
Fork 29-Oct-2010 [258] | You could add it to gitorious trivially, or run your own gitorious installation which favors .r for Rebol, but outsourcing things like this seems to me like it's worth every penny... esp when it's free. |
Andreas 29-Oct-2010 [259] | Fork, _please_ move this discussion to "Source control". |
Carl 29-Oct-2010 [260] | Had the chance to read Git for Computer Scientists. Any system that has a "rebase" cannot be all bad. ;) |
Andreas 29-Oct-2010 [261] | rebase rocks :) |
Carl 29-Oct-2010 [262x2] | Checking for git on local ubuntu. |
nope. not found | |
Andreas 29-Oct-2010 [264x2] | up until 10.04 the package is called "git-core" |
for anything before 9.04 (jaunty), the packaged git-core is rather old, so you're probably better off installing from source. | |
Carl 29-Oct-2010 [266x5] | yes, I was concluding that same thing. |
git does not make | |
Strolling down a dangerous road... | |
Why should git be dependent on curl-config ? | |
must be what he uses for ssh. | |
Andreas 29-Oct-2010 [271x3] | you'll need: libz-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libexpat1-dev |
and probably also: asciidoc, xmlto, docbook-xsl, subversion, libsvn-perl (or libsvn-core-perl), unzip, tcl85., gettext, cvs, cvsps, libdb-sqlite3-perl | |
(those should all be valid package names for ubuntu) | |
Pekr 29-Oct-2010 [274] | I just wonder - if SVN worked for RebGUI, would not it be sufficient for R3 too? |
Carl 29-Oct-2010 [275] | The versioned interdependencies of Linux systems are enough to blow your mind. |
GrahamC 29-Oct-2010 [276] | It didn't really work for rebgui ... |
Andreas 29-Oct-2010 [277] | another (possibly simpler) option for recent git on ubuntu is to use third-party packages. just add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/git-core/ppa/ubuntulucid main to /etc/apt/sources.list, replacing "lucid" with the name or your distro. then do an `apt-get update` and `apt-get install git-core` |
GrahamC 29-Oct-2010 [278] | Everyone had their own forks which were not merged back in |
Carl 29-Oct-2010 [279x4] | Andreas, ok, will try that instead. |
First, let me see if I can grab a working AltME for this linux box... so I don't need to keep looking back at a different screen ;) | |
AtlME installed. Syncing this world. | |
Sure a lot easier installing AltME on Linux than most other apps. :) | |
GrahamC 29-Oct-2010 [283] | Hopefully if people fork the hostkit we can now follow them using github |
Carl 29-Oct-2010 [284x3] | Ok, finally sync'd. |
BTW, for AltME, created an R3 divider for the user list. | |
So, failed to obtain git binary or build git from source. | |
GiuseppeC 29-Oct-2010 [287] | God is here ! |
Carl 29-Oct-2010 [288] | No, just a humble scrappy coder. |
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