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[!REBOL3 Source Control] How to manage build process

Andreas
28-Oct-2010
[89x5]
For SVN write access you'll need to create an account on Github, 
though. For Git write access, I can just add SSH keys which are allowed 
to write to a particular repos.
When installing git from distro packages, just make sure you get 
a Git newer than 1.6.0.
(That means on Debian Lenny, you better get the version from the 
lenny-packports.)
A "concise summary" may be a bit problematic, as distributed version 
control really is a bit of a paradigm shift compared to CVS or SVN.
http://gitref.org/has what many consider a very good tutorial. Concise 
it is not.
PeterWood
28-Oct-2010
[94]
I found this helpful - http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~cduan/technical/git/
Andreas
28-Oct-2010
[95]
One of the more concise tutorials is the one coming with Git itself, 
which you can also read at:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/gittutorial.html
Fork
28-Oct-2010
[96x2]
++ git ... and I I think someone has posted this here before.  http://whygitisbetterthanx.com/
Github is a good site, but there are a few issues, such as how they 
do not acknowledge the .r extension as Rebol.  I've gotten them to 
do .r2 .r3 and .rebol however.
BrianH
28-Oct-2010
[98]
I would like to see a similar site for Mercurial - it likely has 
advantages over Git, particularly on Windows.
Fork
28-Oct-2010
[99]
There is a bug in the syntax highlighter GitHub is using (pygments) 
which causes infinite loops if you write comment [ ( ) ] .  Annoying 
but probably easy to fix if someone wanted to.
Andreas
28-Oct-2010
[100]
Bitbucket is the Github-clone for Mercurial.
Fork
28-Oct-2010
[101]
Gitorious is not quite as "hip" as GitHub but the server code is 
open source, you can run it on your own machines if you feel like 
and modify it as needed: http://gitorious.org/
BrianH
28-Oct-2010
[102]
Git is small

 on Linux. But has to install half of the command line userspace of 
 Linux on Windows if you want to use it there (when last I checked).
Andreas
28-Oct-2010
[103x2]
It still does if you use msysgit. But not much of an issue unless 
you really care for download size.
(Or disk space.)
BrianH
28-Oct-2010
[105]
I am always running out of disk space, no matter how large a disk 
I get. But I was more disaproving of the vast number of dependencies.
Maxim
28-Oct-2010
[106]
but msysGit seems to manage all of that into a single download and 
install, so it seems to not be such an issue.  (not like MinGW which 
requires to use its rather obscure and poorly documented package 
downloader)
BrianH
28-Oct-2010
[107]
It just makes me distrust that site. What if the other "advantages" 
are just as completely incorrect?
Andreas
28-Oct-2010
[108x2]
Then look closer.
Git is Small
 is referring to repository size.
BrianH
28-Oct-2010
[110x2]
If you decide to go with Git because it is popular, cool, no problem. 
I haven't yet seen a good argument that Git is better (than Hg, at 
least), but popularity has its own advantages.
Github is a popularity argument. And a good demonstration of the 
advantages of popularity.
Andreas
29-Oct-2010
[112]
You realise that you can click on the headings and they expand to 
show more detail?
Fork
29-Oct-2010
[113x2]
One of the things I like about Git, and am quite proud of, is the 
data structures are simple and you can reimplement it if you wish. 
It's a well-defined data model. There are Git-related projects like 
GUI tools, for example, with the Eclipse IDE.

   http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/print/9126619/Q_A_Linux_founder_Linus_Torvalds_talks_about_open_source_identity
Rebolgit?
Andreas
29-Oct-2010
[115]
Yeah, would be lovely :)
BrianH
29-Oct-2010
[116]
Yup, I read inside all the headings. I've just seen similar arguments 
against Git.
Fork
29-Oct-2010
[117]
I've said before that a concrete and vetted reimplementation of an 
unnecessarily complicated (but popular) tool in Rebol to show how 
teeny it could get would spark great interest.
BrianH
29-Oct-2010
[118x2]
Another advantage of popularity is alternate implementations. There 
are even Java and .NET reimplementations of Git (that are likely 
smaller than the original Git even if you include the Java or .NET 
runtimes).
But doing one in REBOL is likely a good idea.
Carl
29-Oct-2010
[120]
http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0349.html
Fork
29-Oct-2010
[121]
Linktext says "gituhb", though the link works...
Carl
29-Oct-2010
[122x4]
To git public comments on using git and github.
hit f5
Very nice to hear that git has simple data structures.
Will check back here tomorrow.
Andreas
29-Oct-2010
[126x2]
The underlying design is extremly pragmatic and simple.
(Check your PM, before you leave.)
Maxim
29-Oct-2010
[128]
yeah  ;-)
Pekr
29-Oct-2010
[129]
OK, github - what's the future of R3 Chat now? :-)
GrahamC
29-Oct-2010
[130x2]
let's face realities ... r3chat has been in existence for how long 
now?  And there's hardly anything posted to it.
It may still have a future for the next Altme
Henrik
29-Oct-2010
[132]
So.. time to learn yet another source control system?
GrahamC
29-Oct-2010
[133]
Unless you already know Git
Henrik
29-Oct-2010
[134x2]
I don't.
and... not just learn, but install clients for it.
Fork
29-Oct-2010
[136]
Git is not particularly difficult in and of itself, but the model 
people typically use in GitHub adds a little layer of complexity 
to it with "pull requests" and things... the good news is that with 
a little patience and asking the large community for help you can 
get things going.
GrahamC
29-Oct-2010
[137]
Quite a few people here know it ... so don't worry
Fork
29-Oct-2010
[138]
I really enjoy the GitHub ability to have conversations attached 
to lines in checkins.  (Gitorious has this also.)  Fantastic for 
code review.  And because of the way it works where you have to pull 
in patches explicity, you can review things and have people go back 
to the drawing board before you'll actually accept the change...