World: r3wp

now do the binaries run :) ?

I'll have to reboot

If you can upload the binary somewhare I can test it from my running 
Desktop image.

readelf -a looks reasonable

I've compiled the 0MQ binding, and that isn't ported to Desktop yet

what's the dynamic linker called on syllable desktop? would/should 
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 work?

No need. It's in the kernel, so it doesn't need to be referenced 
from every binary

I've compiled empty and hello now

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/empty

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/hello

Ok, trying to download them (wget?)

Got it

Wget is not onboard. Curl is

The browser is easiest

Or R3

No, that's only on the live CD

Runs but doesn't display anything.

Look at the end of /var/log/kernel

memmap_instance() RO overlap RW (80000000 + 00001000 -> 80000000)

ERROR : execve(./hello) failed. Too late to recover, will exit

That would be the next thing to work on

that sounds like something alignment-related is broken

Alignment should basically be the same as on Linux

Kaj, what was the link for Syllable's ELF loader source code?

Just want to have a look at the source, I won't debug it right now, 
I'm still preparing slides for tomorrow's presentation.

I'll try this again

Kaj: 
I tested the new section headers on Syllable Desktop.

memmap_instance() RO overlap RW (08048000 + 00001000 -> 08048000)"


besides the entry point address being a problem, this could also 
be due to segment alignment, which we basically ignore, at the moment. 
could you try changing "page-size: 4096" to "page-size: 1" and see 
where that gets us?"

Ok

i think syllable just ignored the alignment setting in the elf header 
last time we tried this

http://syllable.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/syllable/syllable/system/sys/kernel/kernel/elf.c?view=markup

Thanks.

line 1111 originates the error

I've uploaded a new empty with page-size 1

Same error.

hmm, if syllable ignores the alignment i guess we have to properly 
align things

:)

We can load an awful lot of other software, so it seems prudent

in line 183 of formats/ELF.r, change data-ptr: code-ptr + code-size 
to data-ptr: code-ptr + page-size

and change back page-size to 4096 before that

Is that all?

(could you please)

should be a quick way to test this particular problem, yes

ah, crap, no

empty compiles, at least

yeah, but it generates crap :)

Andreas, shouldn't it be rather:
data-ptr: code-ptr + code-size + (page-size // code-size)

yeah, if we want to do proper alignment :)

but it results in the same problem of generating wrong file offsets

(because other code parts re-use data-ptr to calculate the file offset)

give me a few minutes, i'll try to generate a binary that has that 
fixed