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[Red] Red language group

Kaj
27-May-2011
[1697]
Yes, it's Amazon S3. You need to use the official URLs: syllable.org 
or web.syllable.org/pages/index.html
Dockimbel
27-May-2011
[1698]
Won't have time tonight for a debugging session, will look into it 
later next week.
Andreas
27-May-2011
[1699]
syscalls will probably be gone soon anyway :)
Kaj
27-May-2011
[1700]
How is that?
Andreas
27-May-2011
[1701]
i think we'll switch to libc once dynlinking works for elf
Kaj
27-May-2011
[1702x2]
You'll still need prolog and epilog syscalls, and I think Doc wants 
to minimise libc usage
I agree that it's almost unavoidable, though
Andreas
27-May-2011
[1704]
what prolog/epilog syscalls?
Kaj
27-May-2011
[1705]
exit for example
Andreas
27-May-2011
[1706]
why not use libc exit?
Kaj
27-May-2011
[1707x2]
Ah, you're right
Anyway, I do greatly value the capability of syscalls. I'll also 
need them for close Syllable integration
Andreas
27-May-2011
[1709x5]
certainly, they'll still exist
http://bolka.at/2011/tmp/world.bin
a red-generated dynamically linked binary, if someone wants to try 
on syllable :)
requires libc.so.6, calls puts and exit
ah, ignore that. need to add the alignment fix to that first
Kaj
27-May-2011
[1714x8]
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Syllable-readelf-a-link.txt
link is almost the smallest system program, apart from false
It's still 15 KB. There's a lot of GNU junk in there
Doc, the newest Syllable browser offers to download the executables, 
so it's probably a problem with the older browser. The new one is 
on your live CD, not in the 0.6.6 release
Red programs currently indeed pagefault on address 12345678
Ah, I was advised incorrectly. exit is not syscall 5, but 6
5 is indeed Fork, which crashes now
I uploaded new binaries
Dockimbel
27-May-2011
[1722]
Congratulations, no more segfaults :-)
Kaj
27-May-2011
[1723]
Yep. Thanks very much, guys. I'm very pleased with this
Kaj
28-May-2011
[1724]
While you're in Lille, keep an eye on OSNews :-)
nve
28-May-2011
[1725x3]
Starting Red presentation in Lille France since one hour.
Follow us on Twitter : #redlang_france, #red_chronicle, #rebol_france, 
#olivierauverlot
Nenad thanks Peter for his contribution to Red : QuickTest
Kaj
28-May-2011
[1728x5]
I've bound most high level input/output functions in my C library 
binding
So Red can now handle files
It's mostly untested, so let me know if something doesn't work
Implemented block i/o and status handling
Implemented low level byte and line i/o
Pekr
29-May-2011
[1733]
http://www.osnews.com/story/24798/New_Red_Programming_Language_Gets_Syllable_Backend
Kaj
29-May-2011
[1734]
Sorry guys. I worked through Friday night to have the article announce 
Lille, as well, but OSNews didn't process anything since Friday evening
Dockimbel
29-May-2011
[1735x2]
OSNews: it is fantastic to be mentioned there, thank you very much 
Kaj!
The article is very well written and it is the best introduction 
to Red I have seen so far.
Kaj
29-May-2011
[1737x2]
Nah, yours are better. :-) I'm just placing it in a context for Syllable 
and OSNews readers
If you can't think of anything to do this Sunday, you could watch 
the page counter on the Red site :-)
Dockimbel
29-May-2011
[1739x2]
He he :-)
Wow, you're right, 800 page views in 3 hours!
Kaj
29-May-2011
[1741x2]
The US are still waking up
Ah, people voted down the troll
nve
29-May-2011
[1743]
French presentation of Red programming language available on http://www.red-chronicle.com
| Documentation
Geomol
29-May-2011
[1744]
The resulting value type for math operators is the type of the left 
argument (an implicit type casting is operated when required).

What motivation lay behind this?
Dockimbel
29-May-2011
[1745]
Implementation constraint for + and - to support pointer/struct/c-string 
arithmetic without having to explicitly cast the 2nd argument. So 
to avoid having a different rule for * , / and //, I chosed to let 
the implicit casting occur on all math operators. But as the implicit 
casting is reducing the safety of expressions, I might make it more 
strict than it is currently.
Kaj
29-May-2011
[1746]
Will you add floats to Red/System? Will 1 + 1.5 then yield 2?