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Kaj
10-Jun-2011
[1965x2]
Well, that was my original question, whether that already works as 
I would like :-)
So it can only be used when strictly 0 and 1 are returned in integer! 
format?
Dockimbel
10-Jun-2011
[1967]
Exactly.
Kaj
10-Jun-2011
[1968]
OK, thanks
Dockimbel
10-Jun-2011
[1969]
If you function return 0 for false and a positive number for true, 
it needs a runtime conversion.
Kaj
10-Jun-2011
[1970x2]
Fair enough
Any plans to implement automatic inlining in the future?
Dockimbel
10-Jun-2011
[1972x3]
Yes, but probably as part of a future optimizing compiler version.
So, probably when Red/System will be rewritten in Red.
I would also adopt a fastcall convention as default for Red/System 
function calls.
Kaj
10-Jun-2011
[1975]
Awaiting that, I'll refrain from the #define solution, then
Dockimbel
11-Jun-2011
[1976]
Andreas, Kaj: what were the changes required on ELF emitter to make 
it work on Syllable? Just entry point address?
Kaj
11-Jun-2011
[1977]
Base address, really, and address alignment
Dockimbel
11-Jun-2011
[1978]
Ah, yes, base address, not entry point. Thanks.
Kaj
11-Jun-2011
[1979x2]
Base address for Syllable Desktop is 80000000h which currently needs 
to be coded as -2147483648
The same change would be necessary for BeOS, by the way
Andreas
14-Jun-2011
[1981x3]
Red/System can now generate dynamically linked ELF binaries.
Along with some additional pre-processor directives added (#if, #either, 
#switch), this now enables the Red/System runtime being fully writen 
in Red/System itself.
If someone wants to test the generated ELF binaries on Syllable, 
I have a pre-built "hello.reds" available at http://bolka.at/2011/tmp/hello-syllable.bin
Steeve
14-Jun-2011
[1984]
btw, I tried to install syllabe within VirtualBox some weeks ago, 
And It failed/
Dockimbel
14-Jun-2011
[1985]
Andreas: tested on Syllable, works flawlessly!
Andreas
14-Jun-2011
[1986x2]
Oh, great to hear :)
Wouldn't have expected that, actually.
Dockimbel
14-Jun-2011
[1988]
Is it compiled with C bindings? (length? == strlen( ))?
Andreas
14-Jun-2011
[1989x4]
Compiled with the current default settings.
So yes, with C bindings.
readelf says that alloc, free, memset, memmove, strlen are imported 
in the binary.
malloc*
Dockimbel
14-Jun-2011
[1993x2]
Steeve: which system image file have you used?
Great! :)
Steeve
14-Jun-2011
[1995x2]
I check it
SyllableDesktop-0.6.6.i586.iso
Dockimbel
14-Jun-2011
[1997x3]
I am currently working on runtime error catching. I have successfully 
redirected default handlers for SIGILL, SIGSEGV, SIGFPE on Linux, 
but on Windows, the systems seems to ignore my handlers (using signal( 
) function). So I am currently testing with SetUnhandledExceptionFilter() 
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms680634%28VS.85%29.aspx)
If anyone has experience with that API on Windows, advices and tips 
are welcome. :-)
Steeve: I failed to install that version too, but here are special 
install images for Vmware and VirtualBox under "Emulate Syllable" 
bar here: http://web.syllable.org/pages/get-Syllable.html#installation-CD
Steeve
14-Jun-2011
[2000]
Thanks, I'll try it
Dockimbel
14-Jun-2011
[2001]
My Syllable image on Vmware works well (as long as I keep the mouse 
in the VM during the boot sequence, else it fails to be detected).
Steeve
14-Jun-2011
[2002]
Btw, How do you use a Vmware image instead of an iso one. I don't 
see any option to do so with VirtualBox
Dockimbel
14-Jun-2011
[2003x2]
You just do from menu: File->Open.
(on Vmware)
Steeve
14-Jun-2011
[2005]
Hmm...
Gregg
14-Jun-2011
[2006]
Great to see continued progress on Red!
Dockimbel
14-Jun-2011
[2007]
Thanks Gregg, we are currently reaching the first milestone of the 
project with a fully capable Red/System language, just a few more 
implementation fixes, the specification draft to complete, and I 
will declare it beta (means "usable" for real work).
Kaj
14-Jun-2011
[2008x5]
Cool news :-)
Steeve, did you use the VirtualBox boot entry?
hello-syllable.bin confirmed working on the Syllable Desktop development 
build. Thanks to Andreas
The INTERP section can be removed from the binary because it is not 
applicable to Syllable
This removes the last barrier for me to start using Red for real 
work :-)
Mchean
16-Jun-2011
[2013]
Is Red is just Linux at the moment?
nve
16-Jun-2011
[2014]
No Win32