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Andreas 14-Jun-2011 [1983] | If someone wants to test the generated ELF binaries on Syllable, I have a pre-built "hello.reds" available at http://bolka.at/2011/tmp/hello-syllable.bin |
Steeve 14-Jun-2011 [1984] | btw, I tried to install syllabe within VirtualBox some weeks ago, And It failed/ |
Dockimbel 14-Jun-2011 [1985] | Andreas: tested on Syllable, works flawlessly! |
Andreas 14-Jun-2011 [1986x2] | Oh, great to hear :) |
Wouldn't have expected that, actually. | |
Dockimbel 14-Jun-2011 [1988] | Is it compiled with C bindings? (length? == strlen( ))? |
Andreas 14-Jun-2011 [1989x4] | Compiled with the current default settings. |
So yes, with C bindings. | |
readelf says that alloc, free, memset, memmove, strlen are imported in the binary. | |
malloc* | |
Dockimbel 14-Jun-2011 [1993x2] | Steeve: which system image file have you used? |
Great! :) | |
Steeve 14-Jun-2011 [1995x2] | I check it |
SyllableDesktop-0.6.6.i586.iso | |
Dockimbel 14-Jun-2011 [1997x3] | I am currently working on runtime error catching. I have successfully redirected default handlers for SIGILL, SIGSEGV, SIGFPE on Linux, but on Windows, the systems seems to ignore my handlers (using signal( ) function). So I am currently testing with SetUnhandledExceptionFilter() (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms680634%28VS.85%29.aspx) |
If anyone has experience with that API on Windows, advices and tips are welcome. :-) | |
Steeve: I failed to install that version too, but here are special install images for Vmware and VirtualBox under "Emulate Syllable" bar here: http://web.syllable.org/pages/get-Syllable.html#installation-CD | |
Steeve 14-Jun-2011 [2000] | Thanks, I'll try it |
Dockimbel 14-Jun-2011 [2001] | My Syllable image on Vmware works well (as long as I keep the mouse in the VM during the boot sequence, else it fails to be detected). |
Steeve 14-Jun-2011 [2002] | Btw, How do you use a Vmware image instead of an iso one. I don't see any option to do so with VirtualBox |
Dockimbel 14-Jun-2011 [2003x2] | You just do from menu: File->Open. |
(on Vmware) | |
Steeve 14-Jun-2011 [2005] | Hmm... |
Gregg 14-Jun-2011 [2006] | Great to see continued progress on Red! |
Dockimbel 14-Jun-2011 [2007] | Thanks Gregg, we are currently reaching the first milestone of the project with a fully capable Red/System language, just a few more implementation fixes, the specification draft to complete, and I will declare it beta (means "usable" for real work). |
Kaj 14-Jun-2011 [2008x5] | Cool news :-) |
Steeve, did you use the VirtualBox boot entry? | |
hello-syllable.bin confirmed working on the Syllable Desktop development build. Thanks to Andreas | |
The INTERP section can be removed from the binary because it is not applicable to Syllable | |
This removes the last barrier for me to start using Red for real work :-) | |
Mchean 16-Jun-2011 [2013] | Is Red is just Linux at the moment? |
nve 16-Jun-2011 [2014x4] | No Win32 |
also Win32 | |
And MacOSX | |
The aim is to be cross platform including ARM support | |
Mchean 16-Jun-2011 [2018x2] | and does it have a console? |
like the rebol console? | |
Kaj 16-Jun-2011 [2020x2] | Windows, Linux and Syllable, no Mac |
No console, but you can just use the system's console | |
Mchean 16-Jun-2011 [2022] | well this is very cool! |
Kaj 16-Jun-2011 [2023x2] | BSD definitions are currently being entered into Red, so maybe the platforms list is already out of date :-) |
It should be quite easy to get it to run on the BSD systems from the current state | |
jocko 17-Jun-2011 [2025] | I tried to write a console input function (no one is available up to now AFAK). This one works (for windows): #import [ "kernel32.dll" stdcall [ ReadConsole: "ReadConsoleA" [ handle [integer!] buffer [c-string!] len [integer!] read [struct! [value [integer!]]] reserved [integer!] return: [integer!] ] ] ] stdin: GetStdHandle WIN_STD_INPUT_HANDLE __read: struct [value [integer!]] input: func [s [c-string!] return: [c-string!] /local in][ ;in: "" ; don't work in: allocate 255 ; must be freed after ! prin s ReadConsole stdin in 255 __read 0 a: __read/value - 1; because of the line return symbol \n in/a: #"^(00)" ; necessary to add it ! in ] ; usage : res: input "enter a string : " print res my questions : - is this correct ? - how and where de-allocate the c-string ? - why the end-string symbol is not added automatically ? |
Kaj 17-Jun-2011 [2026x3] | My C library binding has a range of input functions |
I don't know if your code is correct, because it's Windows specific. It's quite possible that the Windows functions don't close strings with the trailing zero. My impression is that Windows wasn't originally built on the C standard library | |
The memory you allocate in your input function is returned from the function, so it must be freed outside the function, after every call | |
jocko 17-Jun-2011 [2029x2] | Have you tried the input functions of your C library binding ? I tried input-line (under windows) some time ago, and it did not work. At that time, i did not try to allocate the c-string |
Under windows, the problems with input-line (which uses gets) are probably the same as those that I faced in my implementation : to allocate the c-string buffer, to terminate the string properly. | |
Andreas 17-Jun-2011 [2031x2] | man gets: |
BUGS Never use gets(). | |
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