World: r3wp
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Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2259x3] | Well, that can be changed to put-*, not a big deal. |
Another option could be WRITE, if it is not used latter in Red/System. | |
But REBOL users might find it a bit misleading. | |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2262] | I suppose READ and WRITE will get a REBOL like implementation? |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2263x2] | Yes, but at Red level. |
At Red/System level, we might have something like READ-PORT, WRITE-PORT. | |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2265x2] | With the latest series of Red versions, the 0MQ binding didn't work anymore due to crashing on a certain imported function call. This is now fixed, probably as a side effect of the last few fixes |
Shouldn't newline be a byte/char, as in REBOL? It's a string now | |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2267] | It's for consistency when passed to PRIN/PRINT and avoid requiring PRIN-INT. |
Oldes 21-Jun-2011 [2268] | I would keep PRIN. And instead of PRIN-INT I would like to see FORM. |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2269] | The problem with FORM is that it implies a new buffer allocation that you need to free at some point. |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2270x3] | Yes, the C library print functions do that automatically |
For what it's worth, I just implemented a print-newline because that's easier and more efficient than PRIN NEWLINE | |
The 0MQ binding now works on Linux for the first time. I'm quite happy with that :-) | |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2273] | Cool! :-) |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2274x2] | I've converted the library functions to pass opaque binary messages (byte-ptr!) now, as do the R3 and R2 bindings |
The examples are now responsible for converting from and to strings (so the Red examples are not compatible with the current R3 and R2 examples) | |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2276x2] | I am installing FreeBSD8.2 on Vmware to test Red...Wow, it is like trying to install Linux in 1996...I am really surprized, I wasn't expecting an Ubuntu-like installer, but at least a decent package manager...Here's my attempt at installing git: # pkg_add -r git Fetching ... ... # git git: Command not found. Great! |
Btw, network configuration is not done by default, you need to activate it manually....seriously, in 2011? | |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2278x3] | FreeBSD's main principle is to never update the installer ;-) |
You'd probably be much better off with PC-BSD or Desktop-BSD | |
http://www.pcbsd.org | |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2281x3] | Thanks, didn't know about those BSD variants. |
I managed to get git running. Let see if I can get Red sources. | |
Hmm, I guess there is no chance to make REBOL/View run on FreeBSD without X... | |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2284] | Nope. I guess you have a console system now? |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2285] | Yes. |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2286] | Installing X and everything on top manually is a cherished exercise on the way to enlightenment :-) |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2287] | I did such installation several times, manually configuring everything, last time was in 1997. An OS requiring me to do that in 2011 is a joke. |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2288x2] | I remember leaving Red Hat and Gentoo installations at the console level in hopes of sparing my hair... |
You do realise you've downloaded a server OS? The real joke is REBOL/Core | |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2290] | Sure, we used to have FreeBSD serveurs at Softinnov in the beginning (2002), then we switched to Debian and latter Ubuntu. |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2291] | It's still a favourite bragging exercise in very popular Linux distributions |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2292] | I should blame myself first to not have paid more attention in the beginning to avoid making Red/System's compiler dependent on REBOL/View features. |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2293] | Yeah, isn't struct avoidable? |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2294] | Sure it is, it just requires to code custom serialization routines instead. |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2295x2] | I'd be very pleased with that; nudge, nudge :-) |
Would make Red run on Syllable Server | |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2297] | Also, people installing View on Linux to try Red might encounter issues related to View installation. |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2298x2] | I'm using it on the graphical version now, that we can't release because the integration with BogoLinux X packages is too brittle |
Yep | |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2300] | I might have already lost a few potential users just because of that. |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2301] | They told you? |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2302] | One told me that IIRC, he didn't want to accept the licensing terms that the View installer was asking him to accept. |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2303x2] | I can't sell web sites because my site builder is running in REBOL, which people can't get installed |
Yeah, we've had one paranoid tell us he wouldn't install AltME because it's a binary :-/ | |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2305x2] | :-) |
He must be running FreeBSD ;-) | |
Kaj 21-Jun-2011 [2307] | No, he once built his own security optimised Debian distro |
Dockimbel 21-Jun-2011 [2308] | Did I meet him at ReBorCon2011? |
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