World: r3wp

FreeBSD's main principle is to never update the installer ;-)

You'd probably be much better off with PC-BSD or Desktop-BSD

http://www.pcbsd.org

Thanks, didn't know about those BSD variants.

I managed to get git running. Let see if I can get Red sources.

Hmm, I guess there is no chance to make REBOL/View run on FreeBSD 
without X...

Nope. I guess you have a console system now?

Yes.

Installing X and everything on top manually is a cherished exercise 
on the way to enlightenment :-)

I did such installation several times, manually configuring everything, 
last time was in 1997. An OS requiring me to do that in 2011 is a 
joke.

I remember leaving Red Hat and Gentoo installations at the console 
level in hopes of sparing my hair...

You do realise you've downloaded a server OS? The real joke is REBOL/Core

Sure, we used to have FreeBSD serveurs at Softinnov in the beginning 
(2002), then we switched to Debian and latter Ubuntu.

It's still a favourite bragging exercise in very popular Linux distributions

I should blame myself first to not have paid more attention in the 
beginning to avoid making Red/System's compiler dependent on REBOL/View 
features.

Yeah, isn't struct avoidable?

Sure it is, it just requires to code custom serialization routines 
instead.

I'd be very pleased with that; nudge, nudge :-)

Would make Red run on Syllable Server

Also, people installing View on Linux to try Red might encounter 
issues related to View installation.

I'm using it on the graphical version now, that we can't release 
because the integration with BogoLinux X packages is too brittle

Yep

I might have already lost a few potential users just because of that.

They told you?

One told me that IIRC, he didn't want to accept the licensing terms 
that the View installer was asking him to accept.

I can't sell web sites because my site builder is running in REBOL, 
which people can't get installed

Yeah, we've had one paranoid tell us he wouldn't install AltME because 
it's a binary :-/

:-)

He must be running FreeBSD ;-)

No, he once built his own security optimised Debian distro

Did I meet him at ReBorCon2011?

You sat across the table from him :-)

In the restaurant

I guessed so. ;-)

We also found him in the 0MQ contributors list :-)

hehe :-)

PCBSD: the installer is not able to activate the network card, tried 
both DHCP and manual configuration...

That's disappointing; I would have expected it to be better

But that happens with operating systems once you try them...

The DHCP option worked fine with FreeBSD.

Sounds very Linux: you need DHCP and X, and you have one distro that 
does DHCP, and another that does X :-/

It's the universe's way to tell you you won't win in this life...

I spent 1h trying to make them work, I should have spent that time 
on getting rid of /View instead. ;-)

I once decided to spend the time I needed to waste configuring Windows 
and Linux to make my own operating systems :-)

I wonder if I could not provide my own custom REBOL interpreter instead 
using the SDK.

:-)

Rebpro binary provides the features I need without the View issues.

It's very debatable whether you would be exposing the REBOL API :-)

This is supposed to work, isn't it?

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