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Dockimbel 23-Jun-2011 [2510x2] | Ok, so sounds like a check that shouldn't happen in such case. |
Could you post this error (and future others) to github's tracker please? It is easier for me to manage them there. | |
Kaj 23-Jun-2011 [2512] | I won't like loosing the comfort of AltME, but I'll try |
Dockimbel 23-Jun-2011 [2513] | Thanks. |
Kaj 23-Jun-2011 [2514] | I've put it in there, but I won't be able to follow the discussion much |
Dockimbel 23-Jun-2011 [2515x2] | It is more a matter of tracking than discussing. |
It is also easier for others to follow current issues publicly. | |
Kaj 23-Jun-2011 [2517] | I understand; it's just a rotten situation that the communication isn't integrated |
Dockimbel 23-Jun-2011 [2518] | We have #red-lang on Freenode for that. ;-) |
Kaj 23-Jun-2011 [2519] | I don't do IRC, either. It's not integrated, just more fragmentation |
PeterWood 23-Jun-2011 [2520] | What is AltME integrated with? |
Kaj 23-Jun-2011 [2521x2] | The REBOL community? |
Boron is using all the right open source buzz words, except AltME, and look what traction it got | |
PeterWood 23-Jun-2011 [2523] | I'm not sure that you can associate Boron's lack of popularity with the fact that Karl does not use AltME. |
Kaj 23-Jun-2011 [2524] | Maybe, but I can associate my misgivings with communication systems that make you jump through hoops |
PeterWood 23-Jun-2011 [2525] | Do you mean the Boron mailing list? |
Kaj 23-Jun-2011 [2526x5] | Mailing lists are among the worst, yes |
Ah, the unintegratedness begins. When I type >> in GitHub to denote a REBOL result prompt, it interprets it as indent markup | |
If you had told me twenty years ago that I would be writing prose such as "Local logic! in prin-int leaks as global function!", I would have seen it as a sure sign of dementia | |
I implemented error checking in the 0MQ examples. It has revealed three bugs in Red | |
It has exploded the code, though. It's quite ugly and inefficient | |
Gregg 23-Jun-2011 [2531] | Keep up the good work Kaj! |
Kaj 23-Jun-2011 [2532] | Thanks, I intend to |
GrahamC 24-Jun-2011 [2533] | Karl has failed to engage with the Rebol community as far as I can see. |
Dockimbel 24-Jun-2011 [2534] | Kaj: thanks for the reports. I was aware of NOT issue and already encountered the local name clash, but never got the time to isolate it. Fixing them now, before going beta, is a good timing. |
Pekr 24-Jun-2011 [2535] | So we are going beta soon? :-) |
Dockimbel 24-Jun-2011 [2536x2] | Red/System will go beta as soon as I: - fix the remaining bugs from the tracker, - decide on 2 last syntax issues discussed on the ML (concerning struct/pointer literal syntax and aliases) - make a pass on the specification to fix/update/complete it. |
It could happen today, but I will be probably too busy with other non-Red tasks. | |
Pekr 24-Jun-2011 [2538] | And then? RED language implementation, generating Red/System code? That will actually mean reimplementing all REBOL natives - how long do you expect it to take to get to an alpha? One year? More? |
Dockimbel 24-Jun-2011 [2539x2] | The next step will be working on Red memory manager, then Red compiler (including reimplementing all the base natives). Alpha should be available around September, 1st. |
Yes, I should take the Red->Red/System compilation road. | |
Pekr 24-Jun-2011 [2541] | September 1st for the compiler, right? Not the whole REBOL reimplementation? You can't be so fast :-) And if you are fast, you should rename to SupaRED :-) |
Dockimbel 24-Jun-2011 [2542x3] | I said "base natives", so not a whole REBOL reimplementation. |
I will detail the milestones on red-lang.org just after the beta announcement. | |
Peter, the %function-test.reds script is missing from your last commit. | |
PeterWood 24-Jun-2011 [2545] | It seems to be there : https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/blob/58afdfbf99699c7bcd3f57231edae9c495e00f99/red-system/tests/source/function-test.reds |
Dockimbel 24-Jun-2011 [2546] | Ah...let me check why precisely the test script is complaining... |
PeterWood 24-Jun-2011 [2547] | It's in the wrong place. sorry. It's in source/ when it should be in source/units |
Dockimbel 24-Jun-2011 [2548] | I'll wait for your new commit then. |
PeterWood 24-Jun-2011 [2549] | (I messsed up the copy from Windows to OS X.) |
Dockimbel 24-Jun-2011 [2550] | Porting to OSX should be done asap, after the beta announcement. |
PeterWood 24-Jun-2011 [2551] | That will be fantastic!!! |
Dockimbel 24-Jun-2011 [2552x2] | Yes, I know a few potential Red/System testers that are waiting for that too. |
Thanks for the fix, pulling it and testing right now. | |
PeterWood 24-Jun-2011 [2554] | No problem. Hope it's okay now. |
Dockimbel 24-Jun-2011 [2555] | Yes, I am just adding another assertion in the f1-f function body to verify that the word lookup is done on local context first. |
Kaj 24-Jun-2011 [2556x2] | Yes, I should take the Red->Red/System compilation road. |
Did you change your opinion on this? Wasn't the plan originally to compile Red directly? | |
Dockimbel 24-Jun-2011 [2558x2] | Right, I wanted to make a direct native compilation for Red too, but emitting Red/System might be shorter way to reach the goal. |
As Red/System is a dialect of Red, the compilation should be quite easy to achieve. | |
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