World: r3wp

Nice, but the original "hello" demo was with red color:)

Well, if someone could bring color (using ANSI codes?) to the Mac 
and Linux version, that would be nice! :-)

Ok, I have added the red color to Mac and Linux platforms...updating 
the screenshots now ;-)

Looks much better now. :-)

I don't have Linux nor Mac at this moment... are you using just string 
like "^[[31mRED^[[0m" ?

Yes, have a look at the hello.reds source code: https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/blob/master/red-system/tests/hello.reds

You're too good for us :-)

I like colors... I'm looking forward to see colorized console one 
day:)

Implemented support for argc, argv and env for UNIX platforms, will 
publish it tomorrow when Windows support will be ready too.

Cool, thanks!

That enables another large class of programs

great! now it's getting more useful.

Command line arguments access now available: http://groups.google.com/group/red-lang/browse_thread/thread/4b8cb7a5a49308ba?hl=en

Tested ok on all OS (including Syllable).

Great, I was just looking over it, and couldn't see anything wrong 
yet

In my first release, I wrongly read ESP data instead of [ESP] for 
Syllable.

Ah, the detail devil :-)

I once offered a little glowing "code protecting" angel statue to 
one of my developers. It was supposed to keep devil out of your code 
if you kept it close to your screen. Can't find it online anymore, 
maybe that would help...:-)

:-)

New Red/System document is available: BNF language grammar description 
(by Rudolf W. Meijer)
http://static.red-lang.org/A_BNF_grammar_of_Red_System.pdf

Very cool Doc (and Rudolf).

I've cleaned up my cURL binding enough to put it in a repository:

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-cURL

very nice work!

Thanks

cURL link added to Contributions section: http://www.red-lang.org/p/contributions.html

I'm temporarily bored with all the cURL bindings, so I've started 
working on an SDL binding

good choice:)

that's nice!

I thought you would like it, Oldes :-)

We'll see how far we can get with sound and graphics without floats

I can open and close a window now. Imagine VIEW [ ] :-)

I can have a window without any borders, so you could make your own 
window manager

Got variable-arguments functions (with optional runtime type info) 
working in Red/System. Will release it tonight or tomorrow. RTTI 
is allowed only for variable-arguments functions for now. I could 
be extended to fixed arity functions,but only if I need it for building 
Red.

Kaj: are you working on a SDL-based View clone?

Well, let's first get some pixels in those windows :-)

Hm. I'm developing on Syllable Server. On Syllable Desktop, I can 
load the SDL library and print its version, but it segfaults on opening 
a window

It's the same bug that crashes cURL. It doesn't even get to opening 
the window, it prevents the SDL library from properly initialising

When I add C library initialisation, SDL also initialises

So it works out of the box on Linux but not on Syllable OS?

Yes, exactly like cURL

Have you investigated what is causing that difference on Syllable?

Not deeper than the LSB spec you found that lists possible functionality 
that any implementation can put in there

I mean: it looks like Syllable is not initializing the C lib the 
same way as other OS.

It would be surprising if it would, because this is very OS specific

Maybe you could find out what is causing that in Syllable and fix 
it?

There's nothing to fix. This is how it's implemented in Syllable's 
case

Most of the adaptation of Syllable to standard software is in the 
C library. This is where the handshake between kernel and userland 
is done in common systems

Well, then I am ok to add that libC init call in Syllable's runtime 
part (runtime/syllable.reds) as long as it doesn't need any other 
OS-specific additions in Red/System.

OK, thanks. It will also be needed on other systems, though, in forms 
specific to their C library. I've already included the deviations 
for Linux