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Kaj 12-Aug-2011 [2953x2] | Unknown languages are not played but you can make a lot of substitutions like let's say nl" do "de" etc. Mix sentences in different languages just for fun ;)" |
If you want to make Dutch people angry, you should do that... | |
Dockimbel 12-Aug-2011 [2955] | Cross-posting jocko's reply from RebelBB french forum: There are two steps in this DLL: - first send a request to the Google api, for instance : http://translate.google.com/translate_tts?tl=en&q=hello+world Google returns an audio file : translate_tts.mp3 - second, automatically open this file and play it. I use a DirectXShow filter (windows only), directly able to render the url. In the case of Linux, cUrl could do the first step, and, for instance VLC the second |
Bas 12-Aug-2011 [2956] | As Nenad allready mentioned, he will give a presentation about Red during Software Freedom Day 2011, wednesday 14th september, at the Centrum Wiskunde & Informatica (CWI), Science Park Amsterdam: http://www.softwarefreedomday.eu/ |
GrahamC 12-Aug-2011 [2957] | TTS ... nice. |
Kaj 12-Aug-2011 [2958] | Actually, my bindings don't work anymore with 0.2.1; they only compile |
shadwolf 12-Aug-2011 [2959x2] | keep the good work :) |
/me adds pixels too :P | |
Dockimbel 13-Aug-2011 [2961x3] | Thanks. |
Kaj: it seems I have introduced a regression on logic! handling in last commits. I will fix that asap. | |
Kaj: issue should be fixed now, I have added a couple new tests to avoid new regressions for such returned values. | |
Kaj 13-Aug-2011 [2964] | Thanks! Logic! returns work again, but now I have another problem |
Dockimbel 13-Aug-2011 [2965x2] | I'm on it. |
Issue fixed. | |
Kaj 13-Aug-2011 [2967] | Thanks. Everything is peaceful again in paradise |
Dockimbel 13-Aug-2011 [2968] | Good! :) I will finally have some time to spend on the AVR port. |
Kaj 13-Aug-2011 [2969x2] | I hope so. I see a cload coming, but maybe it will drift past :-) |
cloud | |
Kaj 14-Aug-2011 [2971] | I've updated my bindings to the new PRINT form and marked them as needing the latest Red/System |
Dockimbel 14-Aug-2011 [2972] | Makes me think that having the release version stored in compiler and enforcing a header NEED: field might help... |
Kaj 14-Aug-2011 [2973x2] | Probably. I was recently looking for the compiler version, but couldn't find it |
It would have to be quite precise, though. Currently, the first 0.2.1 release won't do due to the bugs | |
Kaj 16-Aug-2011 [2975] | Is there a limit to the number of arguments that can be passed to (variadic) functions? |
Dockimbel 17-Aug-2011 [2976] | In the current implementation for IA-32, arguments total size is limited to 255 bytes. No special limit is set on variadic functions other than that. |
Kaj 17-Aug-2011 [2977] | The number of arguments, or the combined size of the arguments? |
Dockimbel 17-Aug-2011 [2978x2] | Combined size on stack. |
Have you reached that limit? | |
Kaj 17-Aug-2011 [2980x2] | No, but I'm thinking about implementing dialects in typed function calls. :-) |
Would that work out to 30 arguments for a typed function? | |
Dockimbel 17-Aug-2011 [2982] | You should leave that to Red...I wonder if I didn't open a pandora box by allowing type to be passed with arguments...:-) |
Kaj 17-Aug-2011 [2983x2] | You're not going the Bjarne Stroustrup route where you declare RTTI evil, are you? ;-) |
I think typed data should be used everywhere. It's very useful in PRINT, isn't it? | |
Dockimbel 17-Aug-2011 [2985] | 30 arguments: that's 30 * 4 * 2 bytes = 240 bytes, so that should fit in. |
Kaj 17-Aug-2011 [2986] | Don't the count and the pointer count? |
Dockimbel 17-Aug-2011 [2987x3] | ah yes, you're right, there's more to add...let me see... |
hmm, I haven't looked correctly at the code, the stack limit is for local variables storage (255 bytes) not for function arguments. | |
Too many context switching today, I can't even properly read my own code comments. :-/ | |
Kaj 17-Aug-2011 [2990] | I once went on vacation for two weeks, and then stared at my code for a full day, fearing that I couldn't program anymore :-) |
Dockimbel 17-Aug-2011 [2991x4] | Unfortunately, my brain cells are too damaged by code to experiment such feeling. ;-) |
About RTTI: I don't know if there are good or evil, hard to say. Typed data could be generalized, opening a lot of new possibilities. I just haven't had the time to experiment it to see if it would bring more advantages than issues. Your (and others) feedback on that would be very useful to me. | |
Also for fixed arity functions, the function spec block might become quite verbose: foo: func [[typed] arg1 [...] type1 [integer!] arg2 [...] type2 [integer!]...] [ ... ] Maybe the type numbers could be packed in a byte array and passed as an array pointer to make it easier to declare and use...? | |
Something like: foo: func [ [typed] arg1 [...] arg2 [...] type [pointer! [byte!]] ][ ;-- type/1 => type of arg1 ;-- type/2 => type of arg2 ... ] | |
Kaj 17-Aug-2011 [2995] | I'm very pleased with the new typed functions, as they should enable small low-level dialects. What I've learned from REBOL is that typed data with a standardised type system is sufficient to implement simple dialects, and that these are very useful to keep interfaces compatible while evolving them, because it's much more flexible than a fixed number of arguments with fixed types |
Dockimbel 17-Aug-2011 [2996] | Don't you miss the word! datatype to implement dialects in Red/System? |
Kaj 17-Aug-2011 [2997x6] | I probably will, but you can always define a list of constants yourself |
I don't mean fullblown dynamic dialects, but a lightweight version for efficient low-level interfaces | |
I've implemented SDL events, including mouse input and key presses | |
Here's an SDL paint program: | |
#include %../SDL.reds log-error: does [ ; Log current SDL error. print [sdl-form-error newline] ] red: as-byte FFh green: as-byte FFh blue: as-byte FFh screen: as sdl-surface! 0 event: declare sdl-event! mouse-event: declare sdl-mouse-motion-event! either sdl-begin sdl-init-all [ screen: sdl-set-video-mode 640 480 32 sdl-software-surface either as-logic screen [ while [all [ sdl-await-event event event/type <> as-byte sdl-quit ]][ if event/type = as-byte sdl-mouse-moved [ mouse-event: as sdl-mouse-motion-event! event if as-logic (as-integer mouse-event/pressed?) and FFh [ unless plot screen mouse-event/x-y and FFFFh mouse-event/x-y >>> 16 red green blue [ log-error ] ] ] ] ][ log-error ] sdl-end ][ log-error ] | |
I hereby name it PeterPaint, after the friend whose birthday we're going to celebrate tomorrow :-) | |
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