World: r3wp

Nice new features are side-by-side diffs and support for symbolic 
links

which is the address of the GTK repository

?

http://www.red-lang.org/p/contributions_21.html

thanks !

Looks like Nenad will get 39 bits ARM immediate values :-)

Getting 32-bit literals pools to be generated reliably would already 
be an achievement ;-)

For ARM 64-bit, I just hope we won't have to continue to use literals 
pools...

Looks like Nenad will get 39 bits ARM immediate values :-)


Most likely not. A64 (the ARM 64-bit instruction set) will have 32-bit 
fixed length instructions as well.

Implemented a dialect shortcut in most layout styles by adding a 
bare string element, to make the label directive optional

The end of Daylight Savings Time gave me an hour extra today, so 
I wrote a web browser:

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/screenshots/LazySundayAfternoon-Browser.png

It does Flash and everything

Here's the code:

#include %GTK-WebKit.reds

home: "http://www.red-lang.org/"

address: function [
	[cdecl]
	widget				[gtk-entry!]
	data				[gtk-scrolled-window!]
][
	web-browse  web-get-view data  gtk-get-entry-text widget
]

browser: browse home

gtk-view window [
	gtk-position-center
	"Lazy Sunday Afternoon Browser"
	vbox [
		field [home  :address browser] gtk-tight
		browser gtk-full
	]
]

The executable is 21 KB

Great work Kaj! :-)

Thanks

So now we can run REBOL code in Topaz executed inside a Red/System 
driven web browser. ;-)

Kaj, no way! That's cool.

What the Doc ordered:

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/screenshots/Topaz-in-RedSystem-browser.png

Kaj, this may be a dumb question but what OS are you using?

Linux Mint 10, "Julia"

Thanks. I was wondering if you were using Syllable.

Unfortunately, not yet, but in the next step I hope to integrate 
this in Syllable Server

Wow, this is the sort of stuff to showcase Red with, "A browser in 
only 21Kb, a ... in only ...". Fantastic progress guys.

Wow! That's great! Cool work Kaj!

Very nice, Kaj.

Thanks. It's remarkable how big the gap is between the low and high 
hanging fruit. I've spent ten years on Syllable and REBOL, and three 
hours on this browser so far, including the WebKitGTK+ binding

:) The cool factor!

Very cool indeed Kaj.

Reviewed some Python, Ruby and Haskell bindings for GTK, and they 
all look like my Goodbye Cruel World example in various incarnations, 
instead of my Hello World example :-)

GTK's, and other IDEs', idea has always been that Glade, and now 
a newer interface builder, makes it easier, but combining a generated 
XML interface definition manually with some code language doesn't 
compare to Red/System

Kaj: you might want to add something to the comments here: https://gist.github.com/1326101#comments

Done, thanks

For the RED import, I am getting "Compilation Error: attempt to redefine 
existing function name: printf" when trying to compile the example 
for variadic  http://static.red-lang.org/red-system-specs-light.html
    Get same message for "free" when trying to compile example from 
9.1 #import.     What novice error am I  making?

You can't reuse a function name in Red/System. `printf`and `free` 
are already defined in the runtime source code (%red-system/runtime/). 
If you provide alternative names (not used by the runtime) for those 
imported functions, it will work correctly.

Doc has got Red/System running on Android

Great to hear! What kind of output is the app able to do?

Console output only for now.

Being able to make GUI apps on Android requires at least two more 
steps:
- have Red/System linker be able to generate shared libraries

- build a generic Java bridge to be able to instanciate java objects, 
invoke methods and receive events

A shorter, but less efficient path, could be to use TCP sockets (or 
a lib like ZeroMQ) to setup a communication channel with the generic 
Java bridge.

Also the NDK could have been an interesting option, but AFAIU, it 
compiles C/C++ sources to Dalvik bytecode, so natively interfacing 
with Red/System binaries might not be possible.

Are "native" Android GUI apps posible? I mean - e.g. GTK based ones. 
Or if View would be ported - it uses own methods to draw stuff, no? 
Although windowing is native, so probably some link to JAVA still 
required. Pity MeeGo did not become popular instead (pure Linux based 
IIRC)

I finally find some time to read Red/System doc, and I have a novice 
question - what is basically the difference of cdecl or stdcall? 
Respectively - when wrapping API stuff, how do I know which one to 
use? I expect this area is for more skilled C developers, than occassional 
interface users?

In 13.6.2: isn't there a typo?

show-args 123 -p hello

it would output:

count: 4
1: test-logic2
2: 123
3: -p
4: hello

I would expect 1: being a "show-args"

what is basically the difference of cdecl or stdcall?


See this wikipedia page for some basic info about calling conventions: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_calling_conventions


Respectively - when wrapping API stuff, how do I know which one to 
use? 


When you're wrapping an API, you should find out how the library 
was compiled, and infer from that what calling convention is required. 
Most of C libs are using cdecl, while the Windows win32 API uses 
stdcall.

13.6.2: yes, it's a typo.

Typo fixed.