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Dockimbel 19-Nov-2011 [3853] | Interesting, but I guess that a specific data encoding would be more appropriate than plain REBOL or C? Something like the Golf dialect (wrote by hostilefork?). |
BrianH 19-Nov-2011 [3854x2] | I was mostly interested in code sharing over text messages, but something like AltME or a code editor on my phone would be invaluable. A code editor that can send code snippets over SMS or other sharing services sounds interesting. I only mention this in this group because Red looks like it will end up on my phone before R3, barring a miracle. |
Though, technically, I might be able to get Topaz running on the phone even quicker... | |
Dockimbel 19-Nov-2011 [3856] | I guess that Topaz should already run on it, have you tried the Topaz demo URL? |
BrianH 19-Nov-2011 [3857] | Not on the phone yet, but I'll try that today :) |
Dockimbel 19-Nov-2011 [3858x2] | In case you've missed it, you can already run this simple Red/System HelloWorld app on your Android phone: http://static.red-lang.org/android-hello.jpg |
And full Red/System apps very soon. | |
BrianH 19-Nov-2011 [3860x2] | Nice :) |
What program did you use to run the remote app? | |
Dockimbel 19-Nov-2011 [3862] | This one: http://gimite.net/en/index.php?Runnative executable in Android App |
Oldes 19-Nov-2011 [3863] | Do you want to make a QNX port as well? |
Kaj 19-Nov-2011 [3864] | Thanks for fixing that bug in the Windows version, Doc. I'm developing on Linux, so I seldomly test such things |
Dockimbel 19-Nov-2011 [3865x2] | It was a bug occurring only in rare cases, I'm glad I had the occasion to spot it. |
QNX: if you're thinking about BlackBerry support, why not. But as BlackBerry has a decreasing market share, I am not sure that would be a relevant target to support in a year. Anyway, iOS is second on my list of mobile OSes to support (if we can find our way through that "fortress"). | |
NickA 20-Nov-2011 [3867] | Thank you for all your continued work! |
Dockimbel 20-Nov-2011 [3868] | Thank you for your kind support Nick. |
Andreas 20-Nov-2011 [3869x2] | red/system running on another phone: http://twitter.com/xearl/status/138413355126886400/photo/1/large that's a hello world binary (using libc) compiled with red/system running on a nokia n9. |
(inside a terminal. for those not so familiar with linux: the first two lines are the call of the binary and the resulting output. the rest is just platform porn.) | |
Kaj 20-Nov-2011 [3871x2] | Cool. Is that an unmodified Linux target? |
I mean, would it run on other Linux ARM machines? | |
Andreas 20-Nov-2011 [3873x2] | Yes :) |
That's Red/System's vanilla Linux-ARM target, for which we now have basic library imports working. | |
Kaj 20-Nov-2011 [3875x2] | That's great |
Is there still GTK on MeeGo, or did they drop it completely for Qt? | |
Andreas 20-Nov-2011 [3877x2] | purely qt. i didn't yet look if the gtk libs are even available at all. |
makes ui bindings extremely annoying, unfortunately. but a simple wrapper that bootstraps you into GL might be an option. | |
Kaj 20-Nov-2011 [3879x3] | Bummer. I'd hate to do all bindings double |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeeGo#Handset | |
The Handset UX is based on Qt, but GTK+ and Clutter will be included to provide compatibility for Moblin applications. | |
Andreas 20-Nov-2011 [3882x2] | meego is dead in the water anyway, i fear |
intel and nokia split up. intel's way forward is now called "tizen" | |
Kaj 20-Nov-2011 [3884] | GTK support seems to depend on the device, and not include the N9 |
Andreas 20-Nov-2011 [3885x3] | the n9 is not really "full" meego |
it's a maemo/meego mix nokia dubs "meego/harmattan" | |
but the nokia side of things is unfortunately all rather dead now :) | |
Kaj 20-Nov-2011 [3888x2] | Tizen will probably include Samsung's reference platform, which includes GTK |
And Clutter, and EFL... What a mess | |
Andreas 20-Nov-2011 [3890] | Just checked, the only parts of GTK that remain on a stock N9 are glib and pango. |
Kaj 20-Nov-2011 [3891] | Thanks |
Dockimbel 22-Nov-2011 [3892] | Switching to Cheyenne project until Saturday, I will do a Cheyenne presentation at a PHP event in France on friday, so I need to get prepared. |
Pekr 23-Nov-2011 [3893] | Doc, reading a twitter message - congrats to finishing ARM port stage :-) |
Dockimbel 23-Nov-2011 [3894x5] | Well, there's still the fun part to do: debugging ;-) |
(that's why I've left the progress bar at 90% in the Roadmap: http://www.red-lang.org/p/roadmap.html) | |
From REBOL School channel discussion: .Net support for Red is planned after JVM support, which will be most probably done in 2012. | |
I'd like to make the JVM port before the rewrite of Red/System in Red, as doing so will certainly require some deep adjustments to Red/System compiler and linker, so better have it experienced before the rewrite. | |
experienced: experimented | |
Kaj 26-Nov-2011 [3899x2] | I've tried including two bindings in one program that both include the C library binding, and I can't get it to do a single pass over the nested include, either with relative or absoltue paths to the C library binding |
The first thing it bombs out on is a #L marker that it seems to insert into the source to mark line numbers (even though I didn't do a debug build) | |
Dockimbel 27-Nov-2011 [3901x2] | I will a look at it today. |
Kaj: I have just pushed a fix for the problem you've reported. | |
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