World: r3wp

red/system running on another phone:
http://twitter.com/xearl/status/138413355126886400/photo/1/large


that's a hello world binary (using libc) compiled with red/system 
running on a nokia n9.

(inside a terminal. for those not so familiar with linux: the first 
two lines are the call of the binary and the resulting output. the 
rest is just platform porn.)

Cool. Is that an unmodified Linux target?

I mean, would it run on other Linux ARM machines?

Yes :)

That's Red/System's vanilla Linux-ARM target, for which we now have 
basic library imports working.

That's great

Is there still GTK on MeeGo, or did they drop it completely for Qt?

purely qt. i didn't yet look if the gtk libs are even available at 
all.

makes ui bindings extremely annoying, unfortunately. but a simple 
wrapper that bootstraps you into GL might be an option.

Bummer. I'd hate to do all bindings double

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeeGo#Handset

The Handset UX is based on Qt, but GTK+ and Clutter will be included 
to provide compatibility for Moblin applications.

meego is dead in the water anyway, i fear

intel and nokia split up. intel's way forward is now called "tizen"

GTK support seems to depend on the device, and not include the N9

the n9 is not really "full" meego

it's a maemo/meego mix nokia dubs "meego/harmattan"

but the nokia side of things is unfortunately all rather dead now 
:)

Tizen will probably include Samsung's reference platform, which includes 
GTK

And Clutter, and EFL... What a mess

Just checked, the only parts of GTK that remain on a stock N9 are 
glib and pango.

Thanks

Switching to Cheyenne project until Saturday, I will do a Cheyenne 
presentation at a PHP event in France on friday, so I need to get 
prepared.

Doc, reading a twitter message - congrats to finishing ARM port stage 
:-)

Well, there's still the fun part to do: debugging ;-)

(that's why I've left the progress bar at 90% in the Roadmap: http://www.red-lang.org/p/roadmap.html)

From REBOL School channel discussion: .Net support for Red is planned 
after JVM support, which will be most probably done in 2012.

I'd like to make the JVM port before the rewrite of Red/System in 
Red, as doing so will certainly require some deep adjustments to 
Red/System compiler and linker, so better have it experienced before 
the rewrite.

experienced: experimented

I've tried including two bindings in one program that both include 
the C library binding, and I can't get it to do a single pass over 
the nested include, either with relative or absoltue paths to the 
C library binding

The first thing it bombs out on is a #L marker that it seems to insert 
into the source to mark line numbers (even though I didn't do a debug 
build)

I will a look at it today.

Kaj: I have just pushed a fix for the problem you've reported.

Great, thanks!

I can confirm that including multiple times works now on Linux

Particularly, Mike's case of using both GTK and 0MQ works now

The WebKit binding is now here:

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GTK-WebKit

Great news!

Implemented a separate SCROLL widget in the GTK binding, that can 
be used as a container for other suitable widgets to make them scrollable

Red/System can now compile hello.reds (including the Red/System runtime) 
for ARM, and the resulting binary works fine.

That's ARMv5, isn't it, not ARMv7? On what targets does it and does 
it not run?

It should work fine on all ARM9+ CPUs, which is pretty much any ARM 
platform used these days.

ARMv5, yes. Should work on ARMv5+.

For ppl non-familiar with ARM naming conventions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#ARM_cores

So on ARM9, ARM11, Cortex A.

Cores, that is.

As Doc said, that covers most ARM systems in use today (except for 
the original StrongARM (historic; for those who happen to own an 
Apple Newton or Compaq iPAQ) and the current Cortex M microcontroller 
cores.

Wow! Exciting news indeed.