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Andreas 20-Nov-2011 [3885x3] | the n9 is not really "full" meego |
it's a maemo/meego mix nokia dubs "meego/harmattan" | |
but the nokia side of things is unfortunately all rather dead now :) | |
Kaj 20-Nov-2011 [3888x2] | Tizen will probably include Samsung's reference platform, which includes GTK |
And Clutter, and EFL... What a mess | |
Andreas 20-Nov-2011 [3890] | Just checked, the only parts of GTK that remain on a stock N9 are glib and pango. |
Kaj 20-Nov-2011 [3891] | Thanks |
Dockimbel 22-Nov-2011 [3892] | Switching to Cheyenne project until Saturday, I will do a Cheyenne presentation at a PHP event in France on friday, so I need to get prepared. |
Pekr 23-Nov-2011 [3893] | Doc, reading a twitter message - congrats to finishing ARM port stage :-) |
Dockimbel 23-Nov-2011 [3894x5] | Well, there's still the fun part to do: debugging ;-) |
(that's why I've left the progress bar at 90% in the Roadmap: http://www.red-lang.org/p/roadmap.html) | |
From REBOL School channel discussion: .Net support for Red is planned after JVM support, which will be most probably done in 2012. | |
I'd like to make the JVM port before the rewrite of Red/System in Red, as doing so will certainly require some deep adjustments to Red/System compiler and linker, so better have it experienced before the rewrite. | |
experienced: experimented | |
Kaj 26-Nov-2011 [3899x2] | I've tried including two bindings in one program that both include the C library binding, and I can't get it to do a single pass over the nested include, either with relative or absoltue paths to the C library binding |
The first thing it bombs out on is a #L marker that it seems to insert into the source to mark line numbers (even though I didn't do a debug build) | |
Dockimbel 27-Nov-2011 [3901x2] | I will a look at it today. |
Kaj: I have just pushed a fix for the problem you've reported. | |
Kaj 27-Nov-2011 [3903] | Great, thanks! |
Kaj 29-Nov-2011 [3904x4] | I can confirm that including multiple times works now on Linux |
Particularly, Mike's case of using both GTK and 0MQ works now | |
The WebKit binding is now here: | |
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GTK-WebKit | |
Dockimbel 29-Nov-2011 [3908] | Great news! |
Kaj 29-Nov-2011 [3909] | Implemented a separate SCROLL widget in the GTK binding, that can be used as a container for other suitable widgets to make them scrollable |
Andreas 3-Dec-2011 [3910] | Red/System can now compile hello.reds (including the Red/System runtime) for ARM, and the resulting binary works fine. |
Kaj 3-Dec-2011 [3911] | That's ARMv5, isn't it, not ARMv7? On what targets does it and does it not run? |
Dockimbel 3-Dec-2011 [3912] | It should work fine on all ARM9+ CPUs, which is pretty much any ARM platform used these days. |
Andreas 3-Dec-2011 [3913] | ARMv5, yes. Should work on ARMv5+. |
Dockimbel 3-Dec-2011 [3914] | For ppl non-familiar with ARM naming conventions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#ARM_cores |
Andreas 3-Dec-2011 [3915x3] | So on ARM9, ARM11, Cortex A. |
Cores, that is. | |
As Doc said, that covers most ARM systems in use today (except for the original StrongARM (historic; for those who happen to own an Apple Newton or Compaq iPAQ) and the current Cortex M microcontroller cores. | |
Gregg 3-Dec-2011 [3918] | Wow! Exciting news indeed. |
Dockimbel 3-Dec-2011 [3919] | Red/System hello.reds now runs also on Android. If you have a rooted device, you can get and run the binary from here: http://sidl.fr/tmp/hello |
Pekr 3-Dec-2011 [3920] | is there any other possibility than using rooted device? |
Dockimbel 3-Dec-2011 [3921x2] | If you use a native exe loader (like "Run Native Exe"), the ANSI escape codes won't be interpreted. |
Other possibility, yes, just install this app: http://gimite.net/en/index.php?Runnative executable in Android App | |
Pekr 3-Dec-2011 [3923] | as for Cortex MCUs - are those too low level MCUs, or is it just a matter of some work to do? |
Dockimbel 3-Dec-2011 [3924] | I haven't check their specs, but I guess that the current ARM backend should work for them too. |
Oldes 3-Dec-2011 [3925] | Isn't it possible to change debug level durring compilation? I would like to see the traces for my code, but not for the included runtimes. |
Kaj 3-Dec-2011 [3926x2] | It is |
[-v <integer!>] | |
Oldes 3-Dec-2011 [3928] | How it's supposed to be used during compilation? When I use: do/args %rsc.r "-v 3 %tests/hello.reds" i can see a lot of traces for files like %runtime/common.reds %runtime/lib-C.reds %runtime/win32.reds %runtime/utils.reds which I'm not interested in. |
Kaj 3-Dec-2011 [3929] | Not sure what the levels mean. I suspect the runtime can't be excluded |
Oldes 3-Dec-2011 [3930x2] | (I'm just trying to jump in and understand what the compiler does and in which steps) I know they must be there to create the app runable but I don't need such a app at this moment:) |
It's probably more easier for me to add some probes here and there:) | |
Dockimbel 3-Dec-2011 [3932x3] | You can use -v 6 and echo all output to a file and use a text editor to review the output for your code. |
Disabling debug output for runtime files sounds like a useful option though. | |
(and it should be the default option) | |
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