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Henrik
23-Dec-2011
[4021]
cool :-)
Dockimbel
23-Dec-2011
[4022]
I have some polishing to do before making it official.
Janko
23-Dec-2011
[4023]
wow... (about ARM) !! does this mean it can run natively in something 
like android?
Dockimbel
23-Dec-2011
[4024x2]
Yes, there's some screenshots in recent tweets on http://twitter.com/red_lang
But it only runs in command-line mode for now, a Java bridge will 
be required to produce GUI apps on Android.
Henrik
23-Dec-2011
[4026]
So, what will be next?
Janko
23-Dec-2011
[4027x2]
that is awesome, making bindings to api-s is rewarding by itself 
(because you get to see results/apps) to those that need it so now 
that core runs on it I am sure rest will follow.
how is this java bridge made then? is it like some sort of native 
binding or some totally different concept?
Gregg
23-Dec-2011
[4029]
Congratulations Doc!
Dockimbel
23-Dec-2011
[4030x2]
Next for mobile ports:: add shared lib generation support to Red/System 
and Java/ObjC bridges.
In the next days, I will review all the priorities and I will publish 
the requirements for floating point support in Red/System. I will 
probably go back to Red runtime implementation next week until new 
year.
PeterWood
23-Dec-2011
[4032]
Congratulations Nenad. I hope you're going to take a few days off 
after such an intense effort.


Great timing too! Just in time for the launch of the Rasberry Pi!!!
Dockimbel
24-Dec-2011
[4033]
Thanks Peter. New year is usually a very productive time for me, 
so don't count on me to rest now. ;-)
Pekr
24-Dec-2011
[4034]
Doc - thanks for adding Twitter feed directly to RED website :-)
Dockimbel
24-Dec-2011
[4035]
All my test scripts are now working correctly on Linux/ARM, including 
Red's memory allocator.
Pekr
24-Dec-2011
[4036]
Cool, I might dig-up my Beagle Board :-)
Dockimbel
24-Dec-2011
[4037]
You'll certainly have some fun. :-)
Pekr
24-Dec-2011
[4038]
Is there possible something like CALL in Red/System? I expect currently 
"no", so what's the right aproach to it? Map system calls via wrapping 
an OS libary? Do you plan to have something like CALL to have easy 
interfacing along with PARSE in Red level? :-)
Dockimbel
24-Dec-2011
[4039x2]
CALL support: sure, that's on the roadmap, but it's not a required 
feature in Red/System to implement Red, so not high-priority. I might 
add it if we really need it for a demo though. Anyway, it's pretty 
simple to implement, so I'm expecting some contribution there. ;-)
You can wrap the C system() function for a poor's man support.
ArthurIngram
24-Dec-2011
[4041]
is it possible to get guide for new bees and info on the IDE.... 
from reading it looks like the GUI will be gtk+
Dockimbel
24-Dec-2011
[4042]
Sorry, no IDE available yet. For the GUI, gtk+ support is quite advanced, 
I might use it for the IDE if I run out of time to implement my own 
library.
Kaj
24-Dec-2011
[4043]
My C library binding has a basic CALL using system()
Kaj
25-Dec-2011
[4044]
It's effectively call/wait. It may help to remember that the binding 
is complete at the ANSI C level
Dockimbel
26-Dec-2011
[4045]
http://www.red-lang.org/2011/12/arm-support-released.html
Pekr
26-Dec-2011
[4046]
congrats :-)
Jerry
26-Dec-2011
[4047]
WOW! Great!
Pekr
26-Dec-2011
[4048x2]
I have just successfuly run Hello world example on my HTC Sensation 
:-)
What was the script called, which measured REBOL CPU power? It would 
be nice to have it, to measure performance of RED on various phones 
:-)
Henrik
26-Dec-2011
[4050]
Perhaps, a line needs to be rephrased: "Such approach will allow 
us to build easily Android apps without having to write a single 
line of Java or Objective-C code" - AFAIK, Android apps are not written 
in Obj-C?
Pekr
26-Dec-2011
[4051]
Obj-C stands for iOS imo ...
Henrik
26-Dec-2011
[4052]
(people on OSNews will be all over it, if they see it)
Pekr
26-Dec-2011
[4053x2]
however, it is a bit difficult to use, and also - allowing non-market 
sources could be marked as dangerous. Will there be ability to produce 
native Android apps, which could be published via the market?
Henrik - what do you mean by ppl being "over it" - somehow can't 
translate it myself :-)
Henrik
26-Dec-2011
[4055]
Pekr, I'm not sure if it's important anyway, but it might detract 
from the reputation of Red, if some parts are not factually accurate 
in the article. As in: "this guy doesn't know what he's talking about."
Pekr
26-Dec-2011
[4056]
Anyway - not sure if such a news article for OSNews is not a bit 
preliminary ... no bindings yet, no possibility to use standard channes 
(market), no RED yet = not much of a REBOL featureset either. Achievement 
is great - RED gets us onto mobile OSes, still far superior to R2 
or R3, except that Red/System is mostly a C with REBOL syntax. I 
can understand, why Doc wants to work on RED itself some bits too 
:-)


Anyway - I am here to do some testing with HTC Sensation. The fun 
part comes, when the bridge is going to be done. Imagine having parse 
and REBOL like series handling, with access to stuff like SMS, calendar, 
address-book, and other APIs :-)
Dockimbel
26-Dec-2011
[4057x2]
Henrik: agreed, it's confusion, will change it right now. Thanks!
confusion => confusing
Henrik
26-Dec-2011
[4059]
better :-)
Dockimbel
26-Dec-2011
[4060]
Produce native Android apps: certainly, but that requires the Java 
bridge. It should be possible to also use the NDK for accessing a 
subset of Android API, but I haven't investigated yet that option 
much, especially if it requires Dalvik code support or not.
GrahamC
26-Dec-2011
[4061x2]
derivated  - no such englsh word :)
New compilation targets have been provided for Linux and derivated 
OS running on ARM:

change to 


New compilation targets have been provided for Linux and derivative 
OSs running on ARM:
Dockimbel
26-Dec-2011
[4063]
Hmm, another "frenglish" of mine. :-)
GrahamC
26-Dec-2011
[4064]
ahh... your own dialect !
Dockimbel
26-Dec-2011
[4065]
BTW, can acronyms in english take an ending "s"? Is that allowed?
GrahamC
26-Dec-2011
[4066]
okay,make it OSS :)
Dockimbel
26-Dec-2011
[4067]
hehe :)
GrahamC
26-Dec-2011
[4068]
http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic25371.html


And then in Microsoft Manual of Style (version 3.0) we can read "To 
form the plural of an acronym, use a lowercase "s" without an apostrophe." 
Example: several IFSs.
Kaj
26-Dec-2011
[4069x2]
In British English, an apostrophe is more common, so both are correct
Congratulations on the ARM port. It's an important milestone