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Dockimbel 24-Dec-2011 [4035] | All my test scripts are now working correctly on Linux/ARM, including Red's memory allocator. |
Pekr 24-Dec-2011 [4036] | Cool, I might dig-up my Beagle Board :-) |
Dockimbel 24-Dec-2011 [4037] | You'll certainly have some fun. :-) |
Pekr 24-Dec-2011 [4038] | Is there possible something like CALL in Red/System? I expect currently "no", so what's the right aproach to it? Map system calls via wrapping an OS libary? Do you plan to have something like CALL to have easy interfacing along with PARSE in Red level? :-) |
Dockimbel 24-Dec-2011 [4039x2] | CALL support: sure, that's on the roadmap, but it's not a required feature in Red/System to implement Red, so not high-priority. I might add it if we really need it for a demo though. Anyway, it's pretty simple to implement, so I'm expecting some contribution there. ;-) |
You can wrap the C system() function for a poor's man support. | |
ArthurIngram 24-Dec-2011 [4041] | is it possible to get guide for new bees and info on the IDE.... from reading it looks like the GUI will be gtk+ |
Dockimbel 24-Dec-2011 [4042] | Sorry, no IDE available yet. For the GUI, gtk+ support is quite advanced, I might use it for the IDE if I run out of time to implement my own library. |
Kaj 24-Dec-2011 [4043] | My C library binding has a basic CALL using system() |
Kaj 25-Dec-2011 [4044] | It's effectively call/wait. It may help to remember that the binding is complete at the ANSI C level |
Dockimbel 26-Dec-2011 [4045] | http://www.red-lang.org/2011/12/arm-support-released.html |
Pekr 26-Dec-2011 [4046] | congrats :-) |
Jerry 26-Dec-2011 [4047] | WOW! Great! |
Pekr 26-Dec-2011 [4048x2] | I have just successfuly run Hello world example on my HTC Sensation :-) |
What was the script called, which measured REBOL CPU power? It would be nice to have it, to measure performance of RED on various phones :-) | |
Henrik 26-Dec-2011 [4050] | Perhaps, a line needs to be rephrased: "Such approach will allow us to build easily Android apps without having to write a single line of Java or Objective-C code" - AFAIK, Android apps are not written in Obj-C? |
Pekr 26-Dec-2011 [4051] | Obj-C stands for iOS imo ... |
Henrik 26-Dec-2011 [4052] | (people on OSNews will be all over it, if they see it) |
Pekr 26-Dec-2011 [4053x2] | however, it is a bit difficult to use, and also - allowing non-market sources could be marked as dangerous. Will there be ability to produce native Android apps, which could be published via the market? |
Henrik - what do you mean by ppl being "over it" - somehow can't translate it myself :-) | |
Henrik 26-Dec-2011 [4055] | Pekr, I'm not sure if it's important anyway, but it might detract from the reputation of Red, if some parts are not factually accurate in the article. As in: "this guy doesn't know what he's talking about." |
Pekr 26-Dec-2011 [4056] | Anyway - not sure if such a news article for OSNews is not a bit preliminary ... no bindings yet, no possibility to use standard channes (market), no RED yet = not much of a REBOL featureset either. Achievement is great - RED gets us onto mobile OSes, still far superior to R2 or R3, except that Red/System is mostly a C with REBOL syntax. I can understand, why Doc wants to work on RED itself some bits too :-) Anyway - I am here to do some testing with HTC Sensation. The fun part comes, when the bridge is going to be done. Imagine having parse and REBOL like series handling, with access to stuff like SMS, calendar, address-book, and other APIs :-) |
Dockimbel 26-Dec-2011 [4057x2] | Henrik: agreed, it's confusion, will change it right now. Thanks! |
confusion => confusing | |
Henrik 26-Dec-2011 [4059] | better :-) |
Dockimbel 26-Dec-2011 [4060] | Produce native Android apps: certainly, but that requires the Java bridge. It should be possible to also use the NDK for accessing a subset of Android API, but I haven't investigated yet that option much, especially if it requires Dalvik code support or not. |
GrahamC 26-Dec-2011 [4061x2] | derivated - no such englsh word :) |
New compilation targets have been provided for Linux and derivated OS running on ARM: change to New compilation targets have been provided for Linux and derivative OSs running on ARM: | |
Dockimbel 26-Dec-2011 [4063] | Hmm, another "frenglish" of mine. :-) |
GrahamC 26-Dec-2011 [4064] | ahh... your own dialect ! |
Dockimbel 26-Dec-2011 [4065] | BTW, can acronyms in english take an ending "s"? Is that allowed? |
GrahamC 26-Dec-2011 [4066] | okay,make it OSS :) |
Dockimbel 26-Dec-2011 [4067] | hehe :) |
GrahamC 26-Dec-2011 [4068] | http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic25371.html And then in Microsoft Manual of Style (version 3.0) we can read "To form the plural of an acronym, use a lowercase "s" without an apostrophe." Example: several IFSs. |
Kaj 26-Dec-2011 [4069x2] | In British English, an apostrophe is more common, so both are correct |
Congratulations on the ARM port. It's an important milestone | |
Dockimbel 27-Dec-2011 [4071] | Thanks Kaj, I hope to be able to demo some running Android app in Red/System (or Red) in march at the RedTopaz conf. |
GrahamC 27-Dec-2011 [4072] | the only arm device I know I have is the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2 uses an ARM-compatible Intel XScale IXP420 CPU. |
Dockimbel 27-Dec-2011 [4073] | XScale is based on ARMv5, so it should work, you just need to figure out how to download an executable from the NSLU2 and run it. |
Kaj 27-Dec-2011 [4074x2] | I've tested all example programs in all my bindings and they still work with the new release |
I've also compiled them for Android. I can't test them, but they do all compile | |
Dockimbel 28-Dec-2011 [4076] | Good! I'll try to test them on my QEMU instance (at least the non-graphic ones). |
Kaj 28-Dec-2011 [4077] | Don't you have X11 installed there? |
Dockimbel 28-Dec-2011 [4078x5] | I have an X11 (with Gtk I think) image for QEMU but it's dead slow, so I never use it. |
I will give it a new try to see if I can get Gtk binding working. | |
I've tested the cURL binding on Debian armel, works fine (used the example script and my own wget script). | |
For GTK, it stops on a symbol issue with atexit(): [root-:-debian-armel]:~/ARM# ./GTK-widgets ./GTK-widgets: symbol lookup error: ./GTK-widgets: undefined symbol: atexit | |
The `atexit` symbol is present in both the dynamic symbol and relocation tables of the ELF binary. | |
Kaj 28-Dec-2011 [4083] | It's in the ANSI standard for the C library, but it may not be in the Bionic C library for Android |
Dockimbel 28-Dec-2011 [4084] | I'm testing on Debian 6 in QEMU. |
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