World: r3wp

I can try to keep the hangout open all day. James, I'd guess my late 
evening - your morning would be the best chance.

OK, thank you .

>> a: [[1][2][3][[4]]]
== [[1] [2] [3] [[4]]]
>> b: parse a [collect any [keep *]]
== [1 2 3 [4]]
>> rule: [any [into rule | keep *]] b: parse a [collect rule]
== [1 2 3 4]

Just sayin'...

Just parsin'... :-)

Very cool. That looks very useful. I have often been unable to use 
parse because it is quite limited with nested blocks

Reminder, i'll try to keep a G+ Hangout open all day tomorrow (Nov. 
3rd).

Gabriele: I would come but I'm at work and so busy :(

I will join the hangout later in the afternoon.

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/extras/talk.google.com/topaz%2520and%2520red

Maybe also make a quick post about it on rebolforum.com?

not sure, feel free to but i don't know how many people we can handle 
(ie. random people coming in from a public web page)

(ie. what I want to avoid is someone from here not being able to 
get in because there are people coming even though they are not really 
interested etc.)

ok, I won't make a posting.

I'm away for lunch. I'll keep the hangout on (not sure if it is possible 
to re-enter it after everyone's out).

Only Peter showed up so far... :-)

Has he brought some beer? :)

I will join in about an hour.

Cool. Maybe I'll take a 1 hour break now then, I guess more people 
are going to show up once you're there as well.

Well, I could just join now and leave it open as you do...

It actually kicked me out earlier when I left it idle. But I was 
able to join back.

Working on joining. I saw you two for a second.

I've seen you for a second as well.

OK, trying with my notebook...

are you able to hear us at least?

It doesn't like me...

Trying again.

I keep getting knocked off. "Call initiation failed"

:(

I'll keep working at it on my notebook. Stand by.

I'm not seeing the hangout in G+.

forgot I had to click a link...

Henrik, the link above should be enough

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/extras/talk.google.com/topaz%2520and%2520red

we are having a great talk, if anyone is interested in joining. :-)

Meeting has ended (for now?). It was great.

Henrik, it was nice to see you. That was a very cool meeting. OK, 
I'm going to get a camera.

James, it was great talking to you, but the connection was sometimes 
poor, which was a shame.

i'll check back in a bit in case someone else is around. in any case, 
it was a great talk. i guess we can repeat this next month or so 
- my afternoon seems to be the best time. too bad Peter didn't get 
to meet everyone else. :)

yes, I think we should do this again.

Yes, that was perfect.

Yeah, was really cool to meet with Henrik and hear James.

After having this experience, I am really looking forward to what 
you and Gabriel create.

I meeting note would be nice to read, just like old demoscene party 
reviews :)

* "a meeting note"

Well, the topics ranged from "how to solve the world's economic problems" 
to does Carl write good notes. Personally I appreciated the down-to-earth 
explanations of what Doc and Gabriele are trying to do and how their 
two projects are linked.

Looks like I'll have to stay up until 3:30 in the morning next time 
:-)

Peter, you may try to convince the others to show up earlier instead. 
;)


Endo: it was very informal, so it's hard to write a written summary 
or anything like that... though, Hangouts with extra has a note thing, 
next time we can try to use that. In any case, if you have a preferred 
date / time for next month, we can try to be there.

Gabriele: one thing I don't know about langauges that compile to 
other languages (and there are many, I am not targeting this just 
to you), how do you debug then? Do you have any plans or thoughts 
about it? Maybe compile in "debug mode" where you somehow can discover 
what is going on? 


I was just looking at ocaml 2 json yesterday and some other things 
and didn't see anything relating to this question.

Using any language, I debug 99.9% of the times just putting in print 
statements at different points in the code. And then remove them 
again later, when things work. I like keeping code 'clean' and simple, 
so this approach works for me. And then there are debug tools in 
the language, that are used to produce the code, that translate code 
from one language to another.

Yes I do some variant of that too. Hm.. maybe I just viewed all this 
wrong so far.. I imagined that when something will go wrong I will 
be looking and hacking on generated javascript (I use it and console 
sometimes), but yes I should view it that I will be changing the 
topaz with print statements for example and viewing the output.


In this case .. is it planned so that topaz could be automatically 
compiled on http request (in dev mode at least)? so that you can 
just edit and reload, like with javascript (without manually compiling)?