World: r3wp

It would be intesting to have 'stats (profiler) available - anything 
like that planned?

Size is probably because of some Windows includes/libs. From my mac:

-rwxrwxr-x+  1 john  staff  360286  4 Dec 09:53 world_linux
-rwxr-xr-x   1 john  staff  346216  3 Dec 11:27 world_macosx
-rw-r--r--+  1 john  staff  515991  4 Dec 09:50 world_win32.exe


The OS X and Linux version is much smaller. I have to dig into that 
at some point. But I don't think, it's so important right now.

Geomol - absolutly - not impotant, just a question of couriosity 
.... You better focus to some other areas :-)

Yeah, STATS would be nice. It's not high on my list atm.

I have got first crash. Try code like:

for i 1 1000000 1 [print "ahoy"]

... and press ctrl c

ctrl c terminates World. That's intentional.

ok

I guess you should give us a bug tracker.

nooo too much work for me. :)


Well, for now I would not have time enough to deal with lots of bug 
reports. At a later time, when I'm mostly done coding on it, and 
have removed all the bugs, I already know about, and added missing 
features, bug reports are very welcome. But simple tests, like you 
see in the test/ dir is a good idea. I can handle a couple of falsed 
tests at a time now. So maybe that's a way.


What do you guys think is a good way? What way will get to the goal 
knowing I'm booked with things to do already.

I guess you need form for feature requests as well :) For example 
the routine! part is not good enough, R2 version is better at this 
moment.

Yes.

Fixing the routine part is high on my list.

And the defining rules for routines will most likely change, so don't 
use a lot of time making routines, unless you're ready to change 
your code later.

Defining routines is on page 10 in cortex_alpha.pdf. I just updated 
that doc.

Oldes, you can try putting in the [typecheck] special attribute.

don't forget routines which return void

I think, that's supported already with
void none!
at the end of the make routine! block.

And when the return type is void, the World type after (none! in 
my example above, I should maybe had said unset!) is ignored. Return 
is unset! then.

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On OS X, World seems to be fussy about which directory it is launched 
from:

Rodney:Simple-Test peter$ cd ~/Languages/World
Rodney:World
 peter$ ./world

Loading Cortex... Done

World/Cortex 0  Copyright (c) 2009-2011 John Niclasen, NicomSoft

build: Dec  3 2011 11:27:45

w> .

Hello, World!
w> tes
t
== true
w
> quit

Rodney:World peter$ cd ~/Code/Rebol/Simple-Test

Rodney:Simple-Test peter$ ~/Languages/World/world

World/Cortex 0  Copyright (c) 2009-2011 John Niclasen, NicomSoft

build: Dec  3 2011 11:27:45

w> .

** Error: . has no value

** Near: .

w> test

** Error: test has no value

** Near: test

w> quit

Do you have a place to keep a list of REBOL incompatibilities?

For example:

** Error: set has no refinement called any

Not yet. How do we do that the best way?

May be using either Github issues or wiki

Nenad uses Github issues for bug and feature request tracking for 
Red though perhaps the wiki would be better for a List of REBOL incompatabilities?

(Which I can't spell !!!)

I'll create a wiki.

Can you see the wiki: https://github.com/Geomol/World/wiki
Can you add to it/edit page?

Yes, I can

Cool! As I add features, functions, refinements, that wiki has to 
be kept up to date to be really useful. I don't have time to do it 
all myself.

You should add link to the world page into the readme file.

done

Peter, the directory launch problem, you see, is because it can't 
find and run cortex.w . I'll fix this. You can run it manually though 
with: do %<directory>/cortex.w

Thanks, John

the automatic closing of open brackets may be handy when typing, 
but it gets in the way copying from the clipboard

Maybe if it could be turned off?

Pekr: "why it is so "big", as it mostly compares to /Core? :-)"


world's linux binary is already smaller than rebol/core 2.7.8 for 
linux. (not that it matters, though :)

re bug tracker: i think we can just use github's issue tracker [1] 
to _record_ issues we find, for now. so just so that there's a single 
place to collect them.

[1] https://github.com/Geomol/World/issues

Hmm, it seems that while (basic) compile/at with functions works 
fine, it doesn't work for blocks:
w> x: 1
== 1
w> do [x]
== 1
w> do compile/at c: [y] context [y: 99]
== [y]
w> compiled? c
== true
== 1

Yeah, many things are not finished in an alpha release.

Ok, understood.

Ey, DISASM unfortunately seems to stop at the first RETURN insn encountered 
instead of disassembling the complete bytecode :)

(Seems it indeed does, but it doesn't hurt much. Nested RETURNs are 
in different compiled blocks anway, so ...)

Code is compiled in two ways.


1) Code is being compiled to the VM, when it's being run. So if I 
define and run this function:

w> f: does [return 1 return 2]
w> f
== 1

only the first RETURN statement is being compiled.


2) If I instead compiled the functions, both statements are being 
compiled, e.g.:

w> compile :f


will compile both RETURN statements, but this has no impact, when 
running the function (of cource), and DISASM just stops, when it 
sees a RETURN.

Functions can also be in a parthly compiled state:

w> f: func [v][if v [return 42] print "Hello!"]
w> f true
== 42
w> disasm :f

...	(just part of the function is seen ending with an END_EXECUTE)
w> f false
Hello!
w> disasm :f
...	(the full function is seen ending with a RETURN)

*partly*

Q: Does binding work similarly to REBOL? I mean can World support 
current advanced REBOL block binding/building for generating code 
like Parse compilers or such oddities like this:
>> reduce [word word word]
== [1 2 3]


A: No, binding works differently in World. In World, each block is 
bound (points to a context).

btw - if World is supposed to be about dialect, I would rename it 
to simply a Word :-) You acronym still would make sense ....

Rename World to Word? You must be kiddin'! :) Gives some unwanted 
association.

Terry would explain to you, that in the beginning, there was a God, 
and right after him, there was a Word - the first dialect of our 
cosmos :-)

I don't understand the "unwanted association", but never mind - it 
is just me, that "World" has some obstacles when I tried to pronounce 
or write it, simply the letter "l" :-)

Try Google "Word".