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Kaj 3-Feb-2013 [374] | I've moved the support libraries for Windows from the MSDOS/RedSystem/ folder to the MSDOS/Red/ folder, so the Red examples can be run right away. Of course, this means that the libraries now need to be added to the Red/System examples before starting them. |
Kaj 4-Feb-2013 [375] | I've reconsidered removing the Windows libraries from the MSDOS/RedSystem/ folder. It occurred to me that Fossil identifies files by their hash value, so it should be able to detect identical files and store them only once. It turns out it does, so I have now actually also added the Windows libraries to the Windows/Red/ and Windows/RedSystem/ folders, without using extra space in the database or over the network. All varieties of all Windows examples can now be started right away. |
NickA 5-Feb-2013 [376] | That's helpful - it took me a little looking to find and download all the libs. I doubt there are too many people outside our small group who would put in the effort. |
Kaj 5-Feb-2013 [377] | They've all been in that one test repository for some time |
Kaj 6-Feb-2013 [378x5] | I wrote a Red binding on top of the Red/System binding for 0MQ: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-ZeroMQ-binding/dir?ci=tip I also wrote Red versions of the client/server request/reply example: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-ZeroMQ-binding/dir?ci=tip&name=examples |
Red has no binary! type yet, so it's limited to text messages for now | |
The Red example is shorter and simpler, at the expense of more message copying, which needs to be done in Red, anyway | |
I can also send messages between the Red and Red/System versions of the programs | |
Remember that I already made 0MQ bindings for R3 and R2, so you can also have Red communicate with those, or many other languages | |
Kaj 7-Feb-2013 [383] | I added the new Red examples for 0MQ to the test repository with ready builds, so you can try them without compiling: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip I enhanced the Red versions with support for a program parameter giving the network URL, so you can adapt it to your environment and try different transport protocols. |
Kaj 8-Feb-2013 [384x2] | I implemented the 0MQ ventilator example for Red, in which the push/pull pattern is used to distribute tasks over an arbitrary number of worker processes, then afterwards collect the results by a sink process: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-ZeroMQ-binding/dir?ci=tip&name=examples |
For the ventilator example, I implemented simple versions of to-integer, ASK, now/precise and subtract-time: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-C-library/dir?ci=tip | |
Kaj 9-Feb-2013 [386] | I added binaries for the 0MQ ventilator example to the test repository, so you can try it right away: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip Like the client/server example, you can give program parameters to change the network URLs. |
MaxV 13-Feb-2013 [387] | Rebol3 is dead, long live to Rebol3Bazaar I've been quiet for a long while, and this blog is not easy for me to write. I'm sitting here with a glass of 2013 Ferrarelle mineral water of the glass bottle... hoping to be inspired on how to write this... No, bad introduction... You know that Rebol is a fantastic programming language, but its development was discontinued and bad supported. A lot of people when encounter Rebol falls in love for its simplicity, a blend of theory, experimentation, and invention, the language embodies elegant and wonderful concepts and properties. It was and is the most productive language I've ever used. I hope your experience has been similar. Unfortunately a lot of bad events are leading Rebol to a no through road: - no direction of the new Rebol3 - no a central site open for discussion - no updates on Rebol 3 source (well, just one every month) - to many sites about Rebol and with no updates from years These and other reasons forced me to create http://rebol.informe.com/portal.html a public forum, with a public wiki and a blog, where everybody can contribute. The result is just 17 users, this means that Rebol is dying; the cathedral way of Rebol 3 development is not working. So I'm forced by my love for Rebol to create a new GitHub repository: Rebol 3 Bazaar, it's a Rebol 3 source, with graphic working (VID, but just on windows at the moment); I promise you: - pull requests and issues discussed and merged in 24 hours (or max a week) - open to add people to its organiziation - always update! - link: https://github.com/angerangel/r3bazaar If you like to contribute write me, use GitHub or Rebol portal; you don't need to be a programmer, think about a new logo, contribute the wiki. If you know REBOLers who might be interested in this discussion, please let them know about this blog posting. I look forward to hearing from you, -Max |
Ladislav 13-Feb-2013 [388] | I committed new test-suite enhancements. You can perform LOG-DIFF now to compare test results of different interpreters, e.g. See the comparisons in the "Testing and Tools" group. |
Kaj 15-Feb-2013 [389] | With Doc's latest #include path fixes (issue #385), I could make the Red bindings independent from my system configuration. You can now use them without changing the source code. |
Kaj 17-Feb-2013 [390] | I wrote an example of a browser for Internet sites written in Red. The source code is here: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GTK/doc/trunk/examples/GTK-browser.red The usage model is like a web browser. You point it to network or local file links, in an address bar or as a command line parameter, and it displays them in the same content area in one window. A Red page can contain links that make the browser go to another page. You can create and roll out Red sites just like websites. We are hosting the first Redsite here: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/index.red |
Kaj 18-Feb-2013 [391x2] | I added binaries for the Red browser example to the test repository, so you can try it right away, in */Red/GTK-browser: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip The latest Red interpreter enhancements are also in the build run. In the console, GTK-IDE and GTK-browser, path accessors can now be used. |
I upgraded the Fossil server for the Red bindings to the new version 1.25. There are some nice new features in it: http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html They also have a new short introduction guide: http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/fiveminutes.wiki | |
Kaj 19-Feb-2013 [393] | I adapted four of the Red GTK examples to run in the Red browser. They are now pages on our Redsite, with links listed on the front page: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/index.red You can view/run them without compiling or even installing them, from the above Red browser program. |
MaxV 21-Feb-2013 [394] | Some updates on Rebol 3 Bazaar: http://rebol2.blogspot.it/2013/02/rebol-3-bazaar-evolution.html |
Ladislav 21-Feb-2013 [395] | The core-tests test framework available at https://github.com/rebolsource/rebol-test has been significantly revamped recently. Main changes: * new core-tests added * core-tests reordered so that all "chapters" are contiguous now * the run-recover.r script is the way how to run the tests now * the log-diff.r script can be used to compare differnt log files * the log-filter.r script can be used to obtain just the list of failed tests * the http://www.rebol.org/art-display-article.r?article=n28vxdocumentation article rewritten Please, report any improvement proposals to me. |
Kaj 21-Feb-2013 [396x3] | It turns out that the C library on Windows converts Windows newlines in text files to standard Unix newlines, so when reading a file, it can return fewer bytes than requested. I have extended the Red/System read-file function in the C library binding to support this: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-C-library/dir?ci=tip This fix propagates to READ in common/input-output, console-pro, GTK-text-editor and GTK-browser. They can now load local text files with Windows newlines, including those that were originally in Unix format but converted when downloading. Thanks to Doc for helping test, and to Gerard and Sqlab for additional reports. |
This fixes access to local files on Windows. Next we're looking into the reported problems with network access | |
I've rebuilt all binaries in the test repository | |
Ladislav 22-Feb-2013 [399x2] | Announcing first three Android-related source code pull request to the official rebol source code: - dtoa.c amending MOLD decimal - added Android platform, some R2 platforms, corrected handling of system/product name, added platform existence sanity check - clipboard amendment (corrects clipboard handling on non-windows platforms) |
Both the "clipboard" and "platform" change made by Cyphre. | |
Robert 23-Feb-2013 [401x2] | New Android release: URL : http://development.saphirion.com/experimental/ Direct URL : http://development.saphirion.com/experimental/r3-droid.apk Changes: -fixed console output crashes -implemented CLIPBOARD:// device -implemented BROWSE -added circular buffer to console -release has now correct platform, version, product and build information -fixed console input hang-on-destroy bug Please give it a try and have fun. This release is a milestone since now Rebol CORE is fully done for Android. We will now start to get the VIEW (graphics) to Android. As soon as we have this, R3-GUI should almost work on Android too. |
Again, I want to thank everyone who is supporting the Android port. A special thanks goes to NickA for his great support. | |
NickA 23-Feb-2013 [403] | This is a fantastic thing Robert :) |
Ladislav 23-Feb-2013 [404] | To put it into perspective, the above mentioned R3/Droid is more advanced (less core-test framework failures) than the mainline R3 core builds for Windows, Linux, etc. |
AdrianS 23-Feb-2013 [405] | Great news, Robert! Can hardly wait for the UI part. Will you be putting any of this stuff in a public repo any time soon? |
Cyphre 24-Feb-2013 [406] | Just some additional notes to the Android release. It also contains the latest version of TLS scheme including supported ciphersuites. And there is updated HTTP/HTTPS scheme which should be more stable and handle network timeouts in better way. |
Kaj 25-Feb-2013 [407] | I moved the SDL binding for Red/System into a CONTEXT: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-SDL/dir?ci=tip If you have written any code on top of it, you need to adapt the interface. |
AdrianS 26-Feb-2013 [408] | Andreas noticed Carl just merged something three hours ago. Is he back for 5 min or more, this time? |
Bo 26-Feb-2013 [409x2] | In Carl's defense, just because someone is a genius with code architecture and development doesn't mean they are perfect in other areas, like finding time to work on free projects. As an example, look at Albert Einstein. An absolute genius in many things, but absolutely horrible in others. I guess it's a trade-off. If you're going to be really good at something, you have to be really bad at something else, or at least below average in a bunch of things. I guess that's better than being average at everything. |
I must be pretty good at something, because I can think of a lot of things where I am below average, and some I'm WAY below average. ;-) | |
AdrianS 26-Feb-2013 [411] | There's no disputing Carl's genius, but his delegation skills, ummm... |
Andreas 26-Feb-2013 [412] | -> Ann-Reply |
sqlab 27-Feb-2013 [413x2] | Kaj, the problem, that the console window closed, was caused by my wong assumption, that the convention for file names is the same as in Rebol. i.e. read -> crash read %test -- > crash write %test -- > crash read "test" --> works |
sorry, never mind | |
NickA 1-Mar-2013 [415x3] | I think this is the best introduction to REBOL that I can come up with. Many dozens of tiny application examples that should turn some heads, especially for newbies, kids, and the non-programmer crowd: http://easiestprogramminglanguage.com |
There are a bunch of 5-10 liners in there that should appeal to just about anyone. | |
I'm pitching the much bigger text at http://business-programming.com to some colleges, as a business school (entrepreneur) course. | |
GrahamC 1-Mar-2013 [418] | Need some Rebol optimization on this ... the Rebol stackoverflow chat bot https://github.com/gchiu/Rebol3/blob/master/scripts/rebolbot.r3 |
BrianH 1-Mar-2013 [419] | The R2/Forward project has been moved to Github, including an import of the DevBase change history by Andreas. Go here: https://github.com/BrianHawley/r2-forward No issues or wiki yet, and it needs a lot of work. Still, it's a start! Discuss stuff in !REBOL2 here until we have something better. I have some improvements to make right away, not the least of which is making sure that the license is compatible with R3 and Red. |
Kaj 1-Mar-2013 [420] | At a request, I upgraded R3 on Try REBOL from 2.99.111, the last official RT version, to Andreas' current build, the ongoing 2.101 series. Not many changes, but some bug fixes. http://tryrebol.esperconsultancy.nl Graham programmed a nice bot for Stack Overflow chat that is able to call the Try REBOL web service to execute code examples and post the result. |
AdrianS 1-Mar-2013 [421] | Yes it is nice, and you're avoiding trying it out. I thought you were going to drop by the SO chat at some point. Or have you been in there under a different name? |
Janko 3-Mar-2013 [422] | PBKDF2 in R2 -- please check if I did anything stoopid ... I needed this function for AGES at the end it was very simple to implement (when I found a nice implementation to copy) https://github.com/refaktor/Rebol2-PBKDF2 |
Bo 3-Mar-2013 [423] | Just in case nobody saw, Carl wrote in R3 github the following: Been busy. Will check-in more frequently in March. Sorry folks, Dec-Feb is the "crazy crazy busy" time for new product development. Yes, I know, I'm bad. But, I'm quite addicted to making new products... especially cute little electronic ones that sell in all the major stores in the US. Each one presents special new challenges that I just can't resist. Starting in March I'll break away for a few hours a week to take care of things here. Also... I really want to try using R3 with graphics running on DirectFB. It would be quite cool. One other thing... has anyone got R3 running graphics on Raspberry Pi yet? If not, let's talk about how we can make that happen. What do we need? |
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