World: r4wp

Yeah ... managed to download something that worked :)

Thanks for all your work on Red, Kaj!

I will have a look at this CGI capability of Red soon!

Kaj: I'm looking at your %console-pro.red script and it's really 
enjoyable for me to see all the pieces of Red programming stack put 
together and working well, at this point of the project. Kudos for 
having add script file loading to the console! :-)

Yeah, it's brilliant, the way Red blurs the lines between high level 
and low level programming, and compiling and interpreting, bringing 
them much closer together

Sorry that I continued with the primitive marshalling. I couldn't 
stop myself ;-)

Andreas, thanks for doing the rebolsource.net site. It is quite convenient.

Thanks. I'm glad you find it useful.

having implemented R3 RANDOM (D.Knuth's algorithm adapted for R3) 
I am curious how are you implementing it in Red

I'm just using the standard functions in the C library, so the details 
are up to the operating system

Most systems seem to generate 31 random bits

I'm just using the standard functions in the C library, so the details 
are up to the operating system

 - aha, so different interpreters will yield different random numbers?

Not really different interpreters; different operating systems

OK, thanks

Perhaps Arnold will come up with a custom standard generator

Sqlab, you're probably using the Red console. The interpreter doesn't 
recognise paths yet, so it can't execute functions with refinements

https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/issues/382

Hi Ladislav, I have tried to make a random function in Red (Red/System) 
I saw your name in theR3 source too. That is Knuth's algorithm adapted 
for R3 and adaption to REBI64 type so you made 62 digits possible.

But my problem with Red/System is amongst others no array, so you 
would keep administration using pointers, but than comes the question 
where to keep it? What starting address to use. And so on :)

As Doc said earlier, use ALLOCATE

But indeed I do think for such relative simple algorithms you would 
not use calling of C functions unless you want speed etc.

@Kaj, I heard you ;) That would be on http://static.red-lang.org/red-system-specs.html
about section 14.1 examl=ple using malloc I guess. I have very limited 
time off atm :(

Thank you Kaj, Just read Announce now :) !!

:-)

14.1 is just an #import example. ALLOCATE is built in, and it might 
as well not use C code

It's not described in the documentation, but there are many examples 
in the Red code and my bindings

As soon as I have a little more time I'll hit on it!

The download script sounds great Kaj. May need to look at Fossil 
again. 


What I want is a REBOL wrapper that handles everything for me, let's 
me share and sync simply, and hides whether it's svn, git, fossil, 
etc.

Have to think on that a bit, and find some spare time somewhere. 
:-)

That has been my end goal for many years, so it's just a matter of 
time

This script already hides the use of Fossil. All you need to do is 
download its one file

More great stuff Kaj! File I/O is a key element.

Hard to keep up with all the stuff Kaj has been doing on Red recently!

I've been unleashed after a decade in the dungeon :-)

Is this the expected behavior ?

>> do %download.r
Script: "Download or update all Red(/System) extensions" (none)
Target test
Opening Red-test.fossil failed
Target common
Opening Red-common.fossil failed
..
..
And then there are many empty directories.

Ok, works now.
I had to change to "..\fossil open ..

Kaj: awesome work!!

Thanks

Sqlab, do you have Fossil in the same directory as download.r? The 
script changes directories, so on Windows when Fossil is not really 
installed, this could have the effect of not finding it

Yes, I use Fossil only for your Red bindings.

Thanks. I've added code to download.r to test if Fossil is in the 
same directory. Can you confirm that this works on Windows?

maybe tomorrow.
Anyway good work

OK

It does not work.

There is the problem, that what-dir gives the rebol directory path, 
not the windows path.Even using a "to-local-file what-dir .."  does 
not help, as to local-file does not preserve the trailing (back)\slasjh

sorry this helps
fossil: to-local-file join what-dir  %fossil

Just read through Nick's "Business Programming" piece.  Outstanding 
work!  Clear and complete.

I have only two thoughts that might be helpful:


The initial case for REBOL as a non-programmers development tool 
could use some visuals and diagrams.  


This initial message is perhaps the most important part of the piece 
in my view and might be developed into a standalone article to be 
spread around.

I can already think of at least three people who need to read the 
introduction.

And it still relies on R2 combined with VID. That is logical though 
R3 and Red are the new preferred platforms for future development?

(Oh great work anyway!)

Thanks Sqlab, that really helps. I've added it to download.r