World: r4wp

>> source alive?
alive?: true

>> source alive?
alive?: false


however, that does not matter. what matters is some *description*, 
the "ALIVE? is ... TRUE" sentence does not explain anything

E.g. the 'ON variable is just a "synonym" for #[true], exactly like 
the 'TRUE variable. However, that hardly is the case of the 'ALIVE? 
variable.

OK, I think that you are welcome to register, login and add the description 
you prefer. It's a wiki, not an hand made Bible. ;-)

I cannot add it, I do not know it

'alive? is in SDK, viewtop, connect.r file on line 33. it shows if 
the internet (or network) connection is available.

And used in viewtop's emailer.r and main.r file to show if there 
is connection or not.

connect.r file? - I do not see such a file in the SDK

>>source dead?
dead?: not alive?

I think it means that if alive? is just true you do not need 'alive? 
Most of the time when you run your code it should state that it is 
alive? 

But it is not a value that is always true, like Endo's example for 
a connection status shows.

Ladislav, it's in the viewtop directory.

Thanks, Endo, I updated the description.

as I can now see it, MSDOS is really pretty bad option for Red. It 
has really zero connection with MSDOS, surely it is normal windows 
probram, maybe just in console mode ...

So, who do you think to suggest as "masters"? DocKimbel has time 
for it?

Nope. :-)

Alright, I won't suggest you then :)

BrianH, Ladislav, Kaj?

I would be glad to apply, but I really don't have enough time for 
that, especially if it requires reviewing/testing others code.

However, I could help with bugfixing.

That would be great. All the people in the community would do something 
more or less, I think.

Gabriele, Robert, Cyphere?

I'm up for it. The rest of those suggestions sound good to me too.

I'd like to add my vote for Endo's suggestions, as well. Should these 
nominations not be done as emails to Carl, though?

Doc, I would say that you should be one of the masters even if you 
don't have the time in the way of reviewing or coding if only to 
try to help steer R3 future development to be relatively in sync 
with Red's.

That's a point. I would be glad to participate with other people 
in charge as my time permits.

In such case, Gabriele should also join.

I think Doc is even too busy to collect a Rebzie ;)
Are we happy with the chosen license?

Works for me :)  It should also allow some collaboration between 
the Red and R3 projects, using the methods we went over in the Red 
group.

It seems Carl is still not much OK with the os-ing REBOL, but understands, 
it is a needed move?

He doesn't like the development model. OS projects have generated 
a lot of crap. Half of good design is saying no, and removing stuff. 
OS projects often do design by committee, and that design style doesn't 
say no enough.

well, he won't be able to control a mess created in any forks of 
REBOL, but I would think that with a small group of people as the 
only committers to the official REBOL, he could be assured of reasonably 
good results

As long as there is a canonical repository, there is at least one 
place to go for the proper implementation.

Sorry Endo, I would have been very interested in participating in 
R3 even one or two years ago, but I can't justify it anymore compared 
to Red

I wish to have both, R3 and Red, even I'll continue to work with 
R2 (encapping is important for my bussines) and also Topaz.

I'm prone to collecting myself, so I'll continue to support R3 and 
R2 in Syllable as long as it's not too much work, but I also dearly 
need to converge on one platform

encapping is important for my bussines
 - encapping is not a problem in R3 either

Thanks for all your work MaxV!

Well, GUI is also important for my work. Is there an encapper for 
R3 anyway? Or you mean put script & r3.exe in a package and write 
a batch?

I think that Saphirion might have some tool for R3, which produces 
final exe, but that is just my gues ...

yes, encapping and tasks should have a high priority. R2 has one 
but the sources are not free. perhaps we can convince carl to open 
the encapper too.

maxv ... short and sweet

TomBon ... Saphiron has their own encapper too for R3

On the site from Chriss Ross-Gill there is a way to make one bundle

Very nice Max.

Thanks MaxV, that will be a great help.

graham, yes I know. would be nice to see this one on github too :)

I guess it depends on whether Robert believes in open source or not

I am sure we will see some commercial oriented R3 forks, which will 
fits our needs, quickly after release.

Thank you Kaj!

Installed Fossil on Windows, now I get why you keep claiming itl 
is easier than Git. ;-)

Gotta bite the bullet :-)