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DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1734] | Master branch is for stable code in maintenance mode, branches are for evolutions that could break code compatibility or stability. |
Kaj 15-Sep-2012 [1735] | Red doesn't work yet for me on Linux. See tracker |
PeterWood 15-Sep-2012 [1736x2] | Can you apply the non-Windows fix to the Master branch as quick-test is failing there now. |
Is it too early to report bugs on V.0.3.0 via GitHub ? | |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1738x4] | Kaj: I've answered in the tracker, should be just a couple of definitions missing (they are missing for Darwin too). |
Bug reports: yes, too early, you can just post them here. | |
I've applied the fixes to master branch, see my last yellow message. | |
Tests are running fine on Windows with master branch. I've tested them successfully with linux/v0.3.0 too. Will tray again with linux/master. | |
PeterWood 15-Sep-2012 [1742x3] | Tests also seem broken on Linux. |
This is the merge that seems to have caused the problem: Schulz:Red peter$ git checkout master Switched to branch 'master' Schulz:Red peter$ git merge upstream/master Updating 525097b..ffb1f68 Fast-forward red-system/compiler.r | 77 ++++++++++++++--------- red-system/linker.r | 2 +- red-system/loader.r | 67 +++++++++++++++----- red-system/targets/IA-32.r | 33 ++++++++-- red-system/targets/target-class.r | 13 ++-- red-system/tests/source/compiler/pointer-test.r | 4 +- 6 files changed, 136 insertions(+), 60 deletions(-) | |
The output I'm seeing on both Linux and OS X is the same as on V0.3.0 before you applied the patch. | |
Kaj 15-Sep-2012 [1745] | The problem is on Linux. I prefer to handle it in the tracker because stuff gets lost here |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1746] | Peter: I can reproduce the issue on Linux, I'm investigating it... |
PeterWood 15-Sep-2012 [1747] | Thanks Nenad |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1748x2] | Should be fixed now, the commit for the fix was missing in master branch. |
I will add the missing definitions for MacOSX platform in a few minutes. | |
PeterWood 15-Sep-2012 [1750] | All tests pass on Linux and OS X after latest master branch commit. Thanks. |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1751x3] | Good! |
Kaj:does that change anything for your issue on Syllable Server? | |
For Git command-line users, a useful cheat sheet: http://jan-krueger.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/git-cheat-sheet.pdf | |
NickA 15-Sep-2012 [1754x3] | For those who are excited about what Doc is doing, please remember to continue donating. He's devoting all his time and work to Red at this point. |
Doc, you mentioned that the problem with Paypal is that they'll limit your total donation amount per year ... for now that works. To avoid large wire fees for those who want to donate, perhaps you could set up a US bank account, and then wire money to your account in your country, after funds have collected. If you need help, please let me know: reverse "g r o tod z r a t i u g ta codmorf" | |
I want to make sure you stay well financed, so that you can continue to work without interuption. | |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1757] | Nick: thank you very much, I appreciate such help and "continue to work without interruption" is really all I desire. I'm afraid anyway that donation would not be enough with the current community size, so I will probably start searching for other ways of funding by the end of the year. |
NickA 15-Sep-2012 [1758x3] | If you communicate clearly your financial needs, I'll do everything possible to help keep you funded. An occassional update to your funding requirements would be appreciated. I would appreciate being added to a regular email update, in case I can't keep up on AltMe. I wonder if others who have donated on Paypal may be interested in an occassional update, so they can help when able/motivated. Your current progress is very motivating. I hope that others who are watching feel the same way. |
Has anyone here worked with OAuth and/or the etzy.com API in REBOL? I'm currently looking through Christopher Ross-Gill's OAuth implementation for Twitter, and interested in writing a REBOL app using the etzy.com API. I understand most of it, but don't get the "oauth_signature" spec. Don't have much time for this, so would like to offer some $$$ for anyone able to instruct and or provide help implementing the etsy API. Email reverse "g r o tod z r a t i u g ta codmorf" | |
oops, meant that for another group. Sorry! | |
Kaj 15-Sep-2012 [1761] | Doc, the new commits are in master, not in 0.3.0, so it can't effect the problem on Syllable Server |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1762x2] | Kaj: ok, I will have a deeper look in mmap syscall later, I'm currently debugging the OS X version. |
Nick: I'll try to do that. | |
Arnold 15-Sep-2012 [1764] | Please remember we want to contribute but without a reasonable clue this is hard to do. (Besides the closed-source issue this is what Carl ran into when expecting others to contribute). Me and Github wil never become friends for example, I managed to get some source long ago but no clue how to update to the newest sources and github has informed me they do not wish to support their macosX tool for Leopard that I am running, nor remove the useless (?) check on OS number 10.5, and I am NOT updating my system and learning all the commandlines to upgrade etc is too much effort, (maybe someone can build a REBOL interface). |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1765] | Kaj: I can reproduce a similar memory allocation error on OS X too, so I hope that fixing it there will fix it on Syllable too. |
Kaj 15-Sep-2012 [1766x4] | I don't think you should use syscalls. It's not the POSIX interface: that is implemented in the C library on Linux, and probably most other systems |
http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/mmap.html | |
Note that you need to get the system page size with sysconf(): | |
http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Memory_002dmapped-I_002fO.html | |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1770x3] | Ok, got Red working fine on OS X too. |
Syscalls: given how much a programming language has to call OS services, I don't see why we shouldn't try to avoid an unnecessary layer. But I'm pragmatic, if we get more troubles than benefits, we'll adopt a more classical approach. | |
Also, syscalls usage gives you a smaller executable (smaller import section). | |
Kaj 15-Sep-2012 [1773] | You won't want to use syscalls for memory management on Syllable Desktop, because they're very different. So you'll have to implement the POSIX C library wrapper for Syllable Desktop, anyway |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1774x2] | sysconf:I guess it's the right time to add it. |
We already use some C calls, so no problem for adding Syllable specific code for that. | |
GrahamC 15-Sep-2012 [1776x2] | NickA - it's impossible to setup a USA bank account without being there in person to do so. I've tried ... you have to present your credentials in person. |
Any Paypal limitations are set by the EU ? I don't have an issue with Paypal here. | |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1778] | Yes, it's a EU limitation. |
GrahamC 15-Sep-2012 [1779] | Are protocols going to be like R2 or R3 ? |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1780] | Probably more like what they were intended to be in R3. (Does R3 have anything besides HTTP support?) |
GrahamC 15-Sep-2012 [1781x2] | No, I think Kaj produced a Curl binding for https |
I did write a ftp, smtp and hylafax protocol for R3 | |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1783] | Red should have a more "modern" set of schemes than the one provided by R2, though. |
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