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GrahamC 15-Sep-2012 [1781x2] | No, I think Kaj produced a Curl binding for https |
I did write a ftp, smtp and hylafax protocol for R3 | |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1783] | Red should have a more "modern" set of schemes than the one provided by R2, though. |
GrahamC 15-Sep-2012 [1784x5] | And imap, and a JDBC bridge |
But they were just first passes waiting for Carl to have a look and give advice, which never came, so they never went past that stage | |
So, I hope the underlying support is there to rewrite these protocols easily! | |
This is the ftp scheme Andreas and I did https://github.com/gchiu/Rebol3/blob/master/protocols/prot-ftp.r | |
So, yes, there are a few of us waiting to contribute when Red reaches that point for us | |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1789] | I will provide the basic ones for Red: TCP, UDP, DNS, HTTP(S), SSL, SSH/SFTP, SMTP. Also, I would like to have a few more for remote or local storage builtin: Dropbox, MySQL, Postgresql. You are welcome to contribute other ones to that list (IMAP, SMTP, MongoDB, CouchDB would be nice additions). |
GrahamC 15-Sep-2012 [1790] | What are your plans for a code repository? |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1791] | I will probably host a server that will provide packaged and selected libraries for Red (with builtin support in Red for getting them). For sharing code, my plan was to built some support for that right into the IDE. |
GrahamC 15-Sep-2012 [1792x2] | I was looking at Amazon's glacier ( ultracheap S3 storage ) but that requires SHA256 |
( no need for dropbox if we can have that :) ) | |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1794] | Wasn't Amazon's glacier for archiving data you don't need everyday? |
GrahamC 15-Sep-2012 [1795x4] | Yea |
And that's what I use dropbox for ... | |
as background backup | |
Not for syncing across multiple PCs | |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1799] | I use it mainly as way to share data between all my computers and my mobile devices. |
GrahamC 15-Sep-2012 [1800] | I'd like to see SIP and secure SIP eventually, and the ability to use video streaming :) |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1801] | Imagination is your only limit. ;-) |
Pekr 15-Sep-2012 [1802] | Doc - what are your plan re Uniserve? Will basic engine be present directly in Red, or a separate product? |
GrahamC 15-Sep-2012 [1803] | Glacier allows files to be retrieved over a few hours |
Gregg 15-Sep-2012 [1804] | I've started some convesations here about helping fund Red, but no commitments yet. |
Pekr 15-Sep-2012 [1805] | Wasn't it NickA? I think that so far, donations come from the community members, in an insufficient amount. Are you talking about more solid funding? So far only NickA expressed his will to eventaully fund Red ... |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1806] | Uniserve: we'll see how it fits in the Red I/O model (not written in stone yet), we'll probably use a newer approach with sequential code instead of having to write callbacks. |
Pekr 15-Sep-2012 [1807] | and concurrency? Kind of what Carl have planned? Don't remember where he briefly described it, but we once pushed him to say few words about it on Altme? Or maybe you plan on more lightweight solution, like green threading? |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1808x2] | So far, the plan was to use Actor abstraction, but I might decide to use a more lightweight approach (something like goroutines). The basic idea for the low layer is to have cheap concurrent threads of execution that are dispatched over a limited number of OS threads. On the upper layer, they might appear as task! or actor! values, that you could create in various ways (do/task, read/write on I/O, ...). |
I also have a few ideas about specializing CPU cores in order to avoid costly context switching, but I need to test that on paper first. | |
GrahamC 15-Sep-2012 [1810] | It would be nice if we had something like apt-get to fetch and update both yours and 3rd party software |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1811x2] | We'll probably have something like an "import" function that would work locally and remotely from an organized online repo. |
Gregg: thanks for that. I'm all ears if someone has a solid proposition for that. I'm even ready to relocate myself in a foreign country, if that can help. :-) | |
GrahamC 15-Sep-2012 [1813] | I've sent money to europe by bank wire, and it's very expensive. Best if you can setup a US bank account when you're next visiting the USA ( if that is possible for non residents ), or an E*trade account. |
Kaj 15-Sep-2012 [1814] | hello is still out of memory on Syllable Server, at a slightly changed address |
Andreas 15-Sep-2012 [1815] | Please try again, pushed a fix a few seconds ago. |
Kaj 15-Sep-2012 [1816] | 42! |
Andreas 15-Sep-2012 [1817] | Welcome to the club :) |
Kaj 15-Sep-2012 [1818x3] | Many thanks |
Now for Syllable | |
Odd that it worked before on some Linuxes | |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1821] | Race condition on return value from mmap call. If address was too high, it was failing the safety check (testing for negative values) and wrongly triggering the error. ;-) |
Kaj 15-Sep-2012 [1822x2] | 32 |
Runtime Error, unfortunately | |
DocKimbel 15-Sep-2012 [1824x2] | Not bad :-) |
Will see that tomorrow, bed time here... | |
Kaj 15-Sep-2012 [1826x2] | Night |
I'll tell Bas to schedule a Red presentation at Software Freedom Day coming week | |
Gregg 15-Sep-2012 [1828] | I'm not coordinating with Nick yet, but will when the time comes. |
DocKimbel 16-Sep-2012 [1829] | Kaj: great! Let me know what feature/fixes you need for the presentation! |
Kaj 16-Sep-2012 [1830] | I'm very, very happy to announce that Red now works on Syllable Desktop 0.6.7 |
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