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Does it matter if their names appear in the source header?

Whose names

?

 It just obligates you to advertise the author

http://openssl.org/source/license.html

3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this
 *    software must display the following acknowledgment:

 *    "This product includes software developed by the OpenSSL Project
 *    for use in the OpenSSL Toolkit. (http://www.openssl.org/)"

well, it's not the same software, but I couldn't care less, if we 
had to credit Elmer Fudd, just as long as we have something that 
works.

I don't think that all future Red users will be pleased to have to 
provide a long list of advertisement with all their apps, just because 
Red uses 3rd-party libs underneath.

Henrik: something that works. I don't know what you want to use SSL/SSH 
for, but Red/System has a cURL binding. cURL usually uses OpenSSL 
and does most things you would want to do with SSL and SSH

Kaj - the last thing I want is to have to distribute Curl with each 
Red script. How big is the Curl library? Even tens of KB is too much 
.....

cURL is included in almost all open source based operating systems, 
including OS X

If your software advertises the use of SSL, then you need to mention 
authorship.  If you don't advertise, you don't need to mention it.

If you say your software is safe, that would already trigger it

Better credit Elmer Fudd than *Bugs* Bunny :)

Kaj, ok... why is it always licensing that stops good development...

I don't understand following syntax - is that just a word? 

s: GET_BUFFER(data)

That is the same reason why we adopted BSL for Red/System runtime 
code instead of BSD-3.

does not look like a rebol syntax :-)

Still, it is valid REBOL syntax. ;-)

Well, Rebol/Red headers are extensible. Is that really a problem 
to have a 'credit or 'licence field, and mention authors of particular 
components?

You have to make it visible to end users.

Then I am dumb - R2 does not allow being it a word, nor is it a function 
... so, what's that? Well, some tests, uh, surprised :-)

>> GET_BUFFER: [1 2 3 4 5]
== [1 2 3 4 5]
>> GET_BUFFER: [1 2 3 4 5](escape)
>> data: 4
== 4
>> GET_BUFFER(data)
== 4
>> GET_BUFFER/:data
== 4

As for end user visibility, I can imagine one common place to have 
it - Menu/About dialog, credits section. But, what about apps without 
the GUI, right?

It can be a CREDITS file distributed with your app.

>> [GET_BUFFER(data)]
== [GET_BUFFER (data)]

;-)

that's weird, imo REBOL should not allow that at all - confusing 
...

it's not different than [][][] vs. [] [] []

I bet Carl done it specifically to allow such syntactic construction 
for dialects without having to drop down to string! preprocessing.

...or maybe it's just an auto-corrective feature of LOAD that comes 
handy for dialects. ;-)

I've chosen that syntax to visually distinguish simple defines from 
macro with parameters. But you can write it with a space in between 
if you want, no problem.

So, in the context of Red/System, it's less confusing that way.

Pekr maybe try this instead of with 1 2 3 4 5 
>> GET_BUFFER: [a b c d e]
== [a b c d e]
>> data: 4
== 4
>> GET_BUFFER(data)
== 4
>> GET_BUFFER/:data  
== d
>> GET_BUFFER/(data)
== d

@Doc I want the trivial tasks not non-trivial ones ! I am not an 
expert.

I don't see currently any trivial task that could speed up the progress 
of Red, unfortunately, all the tasks in the Roadmap are non-trivial. 
If I stumble upon some non-coding task that can be outsourced, I 
will contact you.

Ah, there's maybe something that you could do: I need to port my 
current Red test script in Quick-Test (QT) form. I can send you the 
script (very very simple) and the expected unit tests format used 
by QT, you would just have to convert it and check if all tests are 
reported as passing in QT...it's not a big task, but you will save 
me some time for advancing on the code. Interested?

special group for posting small Red tasks?

Checklist

these are the chances to pull some aboard

Yeah, otherwise they will drown ;-)

The ticket system in Github could be used for storing tasks too (we 
would just need a new tag).

You would qualify for a free license for http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overview
but the software is quite "big"

There are lot of online tools for software project management. Maybe 
picking one could help better organize Red's development...thanks 
for the suggestion, I will look into it.

how to get a free license for any of their listed products http://www.atlassian.com/software/views/open-source-license-request

And looks like they'll even host it for you gratis

DocKimbel, we're testing Trello at Saphirion right now. It seems 
to work pretty well.

The main feature that would be needed in such tool is close integration 
with a git repo or directly with github.

ok, Trello is probably not useful, unless there is a plugin.

https://marketplace.atlassian.com/plugins/com.atlassian.jira.plugins.bitbucket

Auto-sync Git and Mercurial repositories from Bitbucket and/or GitHub 

This add-on is turned on by default for Atlassian On-Demand customer

Are there any guides on how to use these various bindings for red/system?