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[#Red] Red language group

Arnold
23-Sep-2012
[2066]
special group for posting small Red tasks?
Kaj
23-Sep-2012
[2067]
Checklist
Arnold
23-Sep-2012
[2068]
these are the chances to pull some aboard
Kaj
23-Sep-2012
[2069]
Yeah, otherwise they will drown ;-)
DocKimbel
23-Sep-2012
[2070]
The ticket system in Github could be used for storing tasks too (we 
would just need a new tag).
GrahamC
23-Sep-2012
[2071]
You would qualify for a free license for http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overview
but the software is quite "big"
DocKimbel
23-Sep-2012
[2072]
There are lot of online tools for software project management. Maybe 
picking one could help better organize Red's development...thanks 
for the suggestion, I will look into it.
GrahamC
23-Sep-2012
[2073x2]
how to get a free license for any of their listed products http://www.atlassian.com/software/views/open-source-license-request
And looks like they'll even host it for you gratis
Henrik
23-Sep-2012
[2075]
DocKimbel, we're testing Trello at Saphirion right now. It seems 
to work pretty well.
DocKimbel
23-Sep-2012
[2076]
The main feature that would be needed in such tool is close integration 
with a git repo or directly with github.
Henrik
23-Sep-2012
[2077]
ok, Trello is probably not useful, unless there is a plugin.
GrahamC
23-Sep-2012
[2078x3]
https://marketplace.atlassian.com/plugins/com.atlassian.jira.plugins.bitbucket
Auto-sync Git and Mercurial repositories from Bitbucket and/or GitHub 

This add-on is turned on by default for Atlassian On-Demand customer
Are there any guides on how to use these various bindings for red/system?
Kaj
23-Sep-2012
[2081x9]
Not really, but for the cURL binding you could refer to my documentation 
for the R3 binding:
http://rebol.esperconsultancy.nl
The 0MQ binding also has some documentation there
Actually, the 0MQ docs there include a guide for Red/System, but 
the cURL docs include programming documentation
There are also the materials from the DevCon:
http://devcon.esperconsultancy.nl
Including videos about Red installation and the bindings:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3926D5E4DBD8B360
More than I thought, really :-)
DocKimbel
24-Sep-2012
[2090x2]
Guys, we will really, really, need something like: http://tour.golang.org
or http://tryruby.orgfor Red.


If someone is willing to start working on such tool, that would for 
sure greatly contribute to the success of Red. I have already bought 
the following domains for such kind of use:

- tryred.net
- redtutor.net
- red4.us
- red2.me
We could even already use Topaz for building it (maybe just adding 
a thin Red dialect on top of it?).
GrahamC
24-Sep-2012
[2092]
Agree something is needed ... there is no easy guide to get started
DocKimbel
24-Sep-2012
[2093x2]
Graham: I was thinking it could be ready for end of year of beginning 
of next year. Currently Red is not for end users, and won't be for 
a while. Red/System could be used in production though, but I don't 
have time to write users docs or tutorials for it.
of beginning
 => "or beginning"
GrahamC
24-Sep-2012
[2095]
Don't we need to wait a bit for more functionality from red before 
writing user docs?
DocKimbel
24-Sep-2012
[2096x2]
No, you can take REBOL as a model, all basic features will be identical.
We could then upgrade such docs later with Red's specific additions.
Pekr
24-Sep-2012
[2098x3]
Who implemented Try REBOL? Was it Kaj?
http://tryrebol.esperconsultancy.nl/
So - we have something to start with, no?
Kaj
24-Sep-2012
[2101]
I'll most probably add Red to TryREBOL. I need to integrate it in 
my CMS, anyway
Arnold
24-Sep-2012
[2102x3]
The next step would than be to get the REPL for Red.
This is to try more Red beyond the things that are save to allow 
on a webserver/browser.
Is it necessary for a tryred to have Red be able to process cgi on 
the webserver.
DocKimbel
24-Sep-2012
[2105]
The easiest way would be to use Topaz and "just" add a Red-to-Topaz 
converter.
Kaj
24-Sep-2012
[2106]
That sounds like a lot of work. On TryREBOL, Red and Red/System will 
be used directly
Arnold
24-Sep-2012
[2107x2]
Agreed. Also a great introduction like http://learnyousomeerlang.com/
would help using the REPL and compiling Red.
Kaj btw length-of is scaring me ;)
Kaj
24-Sep-2012
[2109x2]
Is English scaring you?
There are OS- prefixes left in all platform files except Windows
Arnold
24-Sep-2012
[2111]
I meant the discussion about the -of postfixes. :-)
DocKimbel
24-Sep-2012
[2112]
Kaj: fixed.
BrianH
24-Sep-2012
[2113]
More scary discussion of -of: http://issue.cc/r3/1818:)
DocKimbel
24-Sep-2012
[2114]
Red is now Unicode from end to end: http://t.co/FR8vNV65
BrianH
24-Sep-2012
[2115]
Cool!