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[#Red] Red language group

DocKimbel
25-Sep-2012
[2160]
The frontier between both architectures is blurry in modern language 
implementations. Red final compiler will be able to work both AOT 
and JIT, so BSD is the way to go.
Kaj
25-Sep-2012
[2161]
I know, the irony is on the REBOL side
Arnold
25-Sep-2012
[2162]
I'm on the Red team!
DocKimbel
25-Sep-2012
[2163x2]
Red Unicode printing support extended to all Unix platforms:

http://static.red-lang.org/hello_unicode2.png
For those testing Unicode output on Windows, you need to change the 
default raster font of DOS console to Consolas (recommended) or Lucida. 
The default font is unable to print Unicode characters.
Jerry
25-Sep-2012
[2165]
print "^(4F60)^(597D), ^(4E16)^(754C)!"  ; Chinese
NickA
25-Sep-2012
[2166]
Fast progress
james_nak
25-Sep-2012
[2167]
Nice. And I am glad you are continuing your work Doc.
DocKimbel
26-Sep-2012
[2168]
Jerry: My Windows doesn't support CJK, I'm not sure my Linux VM supports 
those characters too...will try it.
Rebolek
26-Sep-2012
[2169]
You can add support for CJK to Windows very easily. Just check one 
radio-box in font or localization settings.
DocKimbel
26-Sep-2012
[2170x3]
Is it possible to add such font to DOS console?
Ah, found an HowTo: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3780378/how-to-display-japanese-kanji-inside-a-cmd-window-under-windows
And now Red speaks Chinese too: http://static.red-lang.org/hello_unicode3.png
GrahamC
26-Sep-2012
[2173]
lol
Henrik
26-Sep-2012
[2174]
Doc, does it also work in source code or only printed strings?
DocKimbel
26-Sep-2012
[2175x2]
Henrik: look better at the screenshot. ;-)
(I've put the source of hello.red behind the console window)
GrahamC
26-Sep-2012
[2177]
Probably violates rules for legal variable names
DocKimbel
26-Sep-2012
[2178]
You can use any Unicode character in your Red words.
GrahamC
26-Sep-2012
[2179]
Hello World in Chinese should probably be .. world hello and not 
hello world
DocKimbel
26-Sep-2012
[2180]
I don't know Chinese, so I just took the string Jerry gave me.
GrahamC
26-Sep-2012
[2181]
You'll have to change your print string :)
Pekr
26-Sep-2012
[2182x2]
I don't get any chars for Chinese, and in the Greek string third 
char is incorrect too ...
font I use is Lucida Console ...
Henrik
26-Sep-2012
[2184]
You can use any Unicode character in your Red words.

 - ok, that was what I was looking for, as R3 can do this. Thanks.
Jerry
26-Sep-2012
[2185]
Graham is right, In Chinese, "World Hello" is better than "Hello 
World". You can change it if you want, Doc. :-) But I saw other langauge, 
such as Falcon, use "Hello World" in Chinese to demo their unicode 
support.
DocKimbel
26-Sep-2012
[2186x2]
Pekr: switch to Consolas which has the best range of Unicode glyphs 
support.
(you won't be able to display CJK anyway though)
Pekr
26-Sep-2012
[2188x3]
I can select only two fonts there - raster, or Consolas ....
btw - Czeh version of hello world does not display any character 
correctly :-)
dunno if bug, or I should somehow adapt font, anything else, etc.
PeterWood
26-Sep-2012
[2191]
Is the source file of your Czech version UTF-8 encoded?
DocKimbel
26-Sep-2012
[2192x3]
Third greek character incorrect
: be sure you're using latest revision.
Pekr: try typing your Czech characters in Notepad (it has excellent 
Unicode support).
(just select UTF-8 when saving)
Pekr
26-Sep-2012
[2195x2]
hello.red is already UTF-8, I just added one line and saved ...
going to lunch, willing to debug, if I can get any instructions ....
DocKimbel
26-Sep-2012
[2197x2]
Be sure you've saved it in UTF-8.
Anyway, we need more people testing Unicode support for Windows console, 
just in case we missed something.
Pekr
26-Sep-2012
[2199]
well, anyway - how is R2 being able to read utf-8 anyway?
DocKimbel
26-Sep-2012
[2200]
It reads it as a stream of bytes. As UTF-8 doesn't use null bytes 
in its encoding (except for codepoint 0), it can be fully loaded 
as string! or binary! in R2 (but you'll see garbage for non-ASCII 
characters).
PeterWood
26-Sep-2012
[2201]
If anybody can provide the UTF-8 chars (hex values)  for Hello World 
in Czech. I'll run a test.
DocKimbel
26-Sep-2012
[2202x3]
Peter: should be "Dobr^(C3)^(BD) den sv^(C4)^(9B)t"
I've just tested it on Windows console (using Consolas font), it 
works fine.
The above string doesn't work as-is in Red though, you should pass 
the codepoints escaped instead of the UTF-8 encoding.
PeterWood
26-Sep-2012
[2205]
I noticed :-)
DocKimbel
26-Sep-2012
[2206]
I haven't implemented full char! support yet, so I can't write a 
Red script to print me the right codepoint values...(char! will be 
implemented later today though).
Jerry
26-Sep-2012
[2207]
Hello

 in many languages http://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/hello.htm
DocKimbel
26-Sep-2012
[2208x2]
Good source, even Klingon is there! :-)
Hello in Klingon:

nuqneH (What do you want?)
- used when confronted by another