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DocKimbel 5-Oct-2012 [2553] | I'll try to fix it in boot config tomorrow. |
Kaj 5-Oct-2012 [2554] | Most of the bindings don't work on ARM |
DocKimbel 6-Oct-2012 [2555x2] | Does that concern only bindings that rely on callbacks? |
I will try to fix those bindings issues on ARM once I release v0.3.0 in a few days. | |
Arnold 6-Oct-2012 [2557] | Ah Kaj, could you put up a shopping list of thing to buy too when you buy a RaspberryPi? |
NickA 6-Oct-2012 [2558x3] | RED FUNDING DRIVE, MATCHING FUNDS CHALLENGE: to help ensure that Doc can continue to work on Red without disruption, I'll match funds donated to him by November 1, 2012, up to a total of $1000. |
Kaj, we need to get you funded too. | |
Perhaps some discussion about forming a Red foundation would be helpful to organize anticipated future actitivies involving community relations or other activities that will keep Doc and other core developers from focusing on code. | |
Gregg 6-Oct-2012 [2561] | Yes, the hope is that we can rally support to do the things, like web sites, forum moderation, etc. so core developers (i.e. Doc) can focus on development. |
Kaj 6-Oct-2012 [2562] | Thanks for thinking about me, Nick. I'll refrain from asking for donations until Doc is in a good position, then I'll set up a website for the bindings to give sponsors a chance to influence my priorities |
NickA 6-Oct-2012 [2563] | Thanks for your work and vision Kaj. It's so appreciated! |
Kaj 6-Oct-2012 [2564x4] | Thanks |
Arnold, you want me to give a list of things that you would need to get a Raspberry going? | |
Doc, we're just back from Hardware Freedom Day. My talk turned out mostly about the Raspberry, because little Red was working. I haven't looked into the causes yet. When I've caught up on sleep I'll start sending in bug reports | |
It's quite possible that it's callbacks, but I'm not sure yet | |
Bas 6-Oct-2012 [2568] | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=susYvYoUnUQ |
DocKimbel 7-Oct-2012 [2569x3] | Bas: it says "Video is private", so it can't be seen. |
Nick: thank you very much for this initiative, it certainly helps me keep focused on Red and not have to worry about how to pay my bills next month! I hope others will continue to donate, so Nick won't need to take all the burden on his shoulders. | |
Kaj: I noticed Unicode characters rendering does not work on my Linux ARM running on QEMU. I'm not sure yet why, I'll investigate that in the next days. | |
Bas 7-Oct-2012 [2572] | The video is now accessible |
Arnold 7-Oct-2012 [2573] | after running around all week buying additional needed equipment. that sounds like a shopping list comes in handy when purchasing a RaspberryPi, there are some surprises like needing a VGA monitor where the standard videoout on the Pi is HDMI. |
Kaj 7-Oct-2012 [2574x2] | OK, just checking, not sure what you meant |
You don't need a VGA monitor, to the contrary, it's hard to get a VGA monitor connected, you need an HDMI or DVI monitor | |
Arnold 7-Oct-2012 [2576] | I read your post the other way around. |
Kaj 7-Oct-2012 [2577] | Doc, on BodhiLinux I had full fonts when opening hello.red in an editor, including Chinese |
Arnold 7-Oct-2012 [2578] | Still surprised that you still needed to buy additional stuff to get it working. |
Kaj 7-Oct-2012 [2579x2] | Weren't you running bare Debian? That would probably expect you to install and configure more yourself |
Arnold, the Raspberry is just a motherboard, you'd need a power supply and cables at the least :-) | |
Arnold 7-Oct-2012 [2581] | I know LOL! |
DocKimbel 7-Oct-2012 [2582x2] | Kaj: sorry, I wasn't accurate enough, I was referring to hello.red output when compiled. |
(when run) | |
Kaj 7-Oct-2012 [2584x2] | The adapter cable I talked about from HDMI to VGA turned out not to work. It probably works in the other direction, although I thought that wouldn't be possible |
Doc, I thought that couldn't be because I can't run any Red code on ARM. hello.red crashes hard for me, even taking the terminal program down | |
DocKimbel 7-Oct-2012 [2586] | Does it crash on your RPi? |
Kaj 7-Oct-2012 [2587] | Yes |
DocKimbel 7-Oct-2012 [2588x2] | (I haven't yet had the chance to test on mine) |
Are you running wheezy on it? | |
Kaj 7-Oct-2012 [2590] | Yes, are you running an ARMEL or an ARMHF architecture? |
DocKimbel 7-Oct-2012 [2591x3] | I'm unsure, but as we do support hardware floating points, it should be ARMHF I guess. |
We support the hardfp ABI. IIRC, Andreas reported that it was working on softfp ABI too, but I don't remember exactly, so better wait for him to give the right answer. | |
Anyway, we planned to support more ARM ABI in order to spread on more platforms. | |
Kaj 7-Oct-2012 [2594x3] | Better spread on one platform first :-) |
All I can run is empty.reds, Fibonacci, PeterPaint and SQLite | |
And hello.reds, but not hello.red | |
DocKimbel 7-Oct-2012 [2597] | I'll look into that as soon as my RPi is set up properly. |
Kaj 9-Oct-2012 [2598] | Got Mandelbrot to work |
Arnold 9-Oct-2012 [2599x3] | Good work. |
I see update of docs typo in red-system-specs.txt saw in this file that mat operators including % are supported yet in BNF on line 1076 it is not mentioned. | |
Also saw a typo, I read the document further tomorrow and note all typos I see. | |
DocKimbel 9-Oct-2012 [2602] | Maths op missing in BNF rules: good catch. You can add them and submit a pull request on the master branch. |
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