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[#Red] Red language group

Kaj
27-Mar-2012
[313x2]
round-ceiling and round-floor in math.reds do rounding to integer, 
but they still return a float value
To convert to an integer value, you have to go through strings. You 
can use the format function in C-library.reds for that, but I see 
I haven't defined a shorter float wrapper yet
Pekr
27-Mar-2012
[315]
Doc - we are watching your progress via the Twitter messages, and 
looking into Github :-)
Kaj
27-Mar-2012
[316x6]
I've added some floating point convenience wrappers matching the 
other data types
This should work for conversion:
to-integer form-float
Note that the string returned by form-float should be freed
The other way around is already used in my Fibonacci and Mandelbrot 
time processing:
to-float form-integer
Andreas
27-Mar-2012
[322]
On Linux, you could also avoid going through strings and use lrint(3)/lrintf(3).
Kaj
27-Mar-2012
[323]
Is that GLibC specific?
Andreas
27-Mar-2012
[324]
ISO C 99
Kaj
27-Mar-2012
[325]
OK, that could be considered as a binding enhancement, then
Andreas
27-Mar-2012
[326]
Should work on anything except Windows.
Kaj
27-Mar-2012
[327x2]
Once the Red runtime is more fleshed out I'll see what is still useful 
to add in Red/System
Windows doesn't support C99?
Andreas
27-Mar-2012
[329]
Nope.
Kaj
27-Mar-2012
[330x4]
Sigh
I wrote a binding with the Evince document viewer for the Document 
Freedom Day tomorrow:
http://www.documentfreedomday.nl
I now have a GTK widget that can show PDF documents
Gregg
27-Mar-2012
[334]
That's great Kaj!
Endo
27-Mar-2012
[335]
Wow, that's cool!
DocKimbel
27-Mar-2012
[336]
I cannot connect to the URL, it seems to timeout on every attempt.
GrahamC
27-Mar-2012
[337]
The URL is in dutch
Kaj
27-Mar-2012
[338x3]
Our server was down for a short while
I also have WebODF running on my WebKit browser and a local Cheyenne, 
so I effectively have a viewer for OpenOffice/LibreOffice ODF documents
Since the browser is in the form of a GTK widget, this viewer is 
also a GTK widget
Kaj
28-Mar-2012
[341x2]
We're at the Document Freedom Day now. I presented the GTK binding 
and the Evince and WebODF widgets
We also have a presentation by the WebODF author every year :-)
BrianH
29-Mar-2012
[343x2]
It's just MSC that doesn't support C99. There are other C compilers 
on Windows that do support it.
How well they support it varies, I'm sure, as it does on all platforms.
Kaj
29-Mar-2012
[345]
Do they come with C libraries that you need to install to get these 
functions?
Bas
3-Apr-2012
[346x3]
In this DocumentFreedomDay-2012-playlist you can also find the film 
of Kaj's presentation about Red bindings with WebODF, LibreOffice 
and PDF last week in the Royal Library in The Hague, the Netherlands.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzdT9s-CfdE&list=PL2736E5F6878491D9&index=5&feature=plpp_video
http://www.documentfreedomday.nl/2012/WebODF-LibreOffice-Evince.html
james_nak
5-Apr-2012
[349]
So that's what Kaj looks like! Kaj, you have a very kind face. :-) 
 It is an excellent quality video as well. Of course I have very 
little idea of what you are saying but once you get to the code, 
it's familiar. Thanks Bas for posting this.
Kaj
5-Apr-2012
[350]
Thanks. :-) I tried to make the text on screen as readable as possible, 
because it was small on the previous video. Of course, this one is 
in Dutch. Maybe we can combine English speech and big text in the 
next one :-)
Pekr
6-Apr-2012
[351]
I hope Doc is OK and working on RED like mad :-) Last commits are 
12, 16 days old :-)
PeterWood
6-Apr-2012
[352]
He said that he has started work on the Red compiler in parallel 
to the Red runtime but isn't ready to commit the compiler to Github 
yet.  He told me that the runtime was likely to change as he was 
developing the compiler, so I guess that he feels that it is not 
worth commiting code that he feels is not stable.
Pekr
6-Apr-2012
[353x2]
Thanks for some news.
Btw - I also noticed Doc mentioning during the conference, that he 
might make a Red a bit more dynamic than he first thought?
PeterWood
6-Apr-2012
[355]
I think he was tallking about  a similar  flexibility as REBOL in 
passing arguments to functions; the programmer can enforce strict 
typing or not.


It will be interesting to see if Red allows the programmer to define 
new types. Red/System does with alias!s for struct!s and enforces 
strict typing. But it doesn't allow the programmer to define other 
types.
DocKimbel
6-Apr-2012
[356x2]
Pekr: I am working on the Red compiler mostly these days and I need 
to push further than I thought first in order to more accurately 
define the runtime part. As I want to respect my roadmap, I want 
the runtime to be stable enough to release v0.3.0 with an alpha version 
of Red compiler. Be patient, it's coming. ;-)
User-defined types: yes, that's a desirable feature, but probably 
not in the Red alphas.
Pekr
6-Apr-2012
[358]
I am patient, it's just that after the experience with RT, I fear 
you might get lost somewhere between the lines of the source code 
:-)
Kaj
6-Apr-2012
[359x2]
Montenegro looks like the real caves are there, instead of in the 
hills of California ;-)
Funny, I was just wondering about user-defined types last night
DocKimbel
6-Apr-2012
[361]
There are both countless caves and hills here. ;-)
Pekr
6-Apr-2012
[362]
Doc, one unrelated question - how do you use your own domain for 
a Blogger? Is it just some kind of redirection to blogspot.com, or 
are you running blog SW on your own/hosted server?