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The trouble with amounts displayed might be twofold - 1) legal one 
2) personal one - e.g. your girlfriend/wife noticing, that instead 
of going to vacation, you are sponsoring Red :-)

That should be an opt-in thing. I'm not sure I'd want donations to 
be public.

So, maybe just an anonymous list?

what do you mean by anonymous? What I think is OK is to display list 
of donators, in no respective order. It is the same like list of 
eventual top frequent code contributors. I think that ppl could be 
ok with that. Of course, if someone opts to stay "hidden", you will 
not list him/her ....?

You can put something like: "thanks to those people for supporting" 
etc. and put their names if they don't want to be anonymous.
It looks better to not put  then amount of money.

* then = the

My concern was to be transparent about the donations I get, so that 
people know how much I receive each month.

It can also stimulate people to give more.

So you can share the total donation amount (per month, or all), and 
"thanks to those people" text on the web site. Put people to the 
list if they donate even once.

There is something similar on C64 Scene Database: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/donate.php

The other option is to do categories like kickstarter does and just 
indicate a number of donations in a certain range

Indeed, executables for the Windows target don't use stdin/out like 
the MSDOS target does

The new casting warnings seem to assume that all structs are equal. 
Especially in GTK, many objects are both generic widgets and a specific 
class of widget. They need to be passed in different identities to 
different functions, even if those structs are only defined with 
the same dummy content

Here are the two movies of the presentation "Red running on the Raspberry 
Pi" done by Kaj during the first Hardware Freedom Day 2012 at the 
TkkrLab Hackerspace Enschede on saturday the sixth of october

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eQPtrw8rIQ&list=PLN-OHO8jjoowvi5peIoOp_E05wpf2YQVh&index=1&feature=plpp_video

Great, thanks Bas!

Nenad, I think the best for donations would be what they do here: 
https://www.humblebundle.com/

when you donate, you can choose to appear in the list or not, and 
if yes, what name to appear as.

posted in ann-reply group, but really - could we stop calling those 
app being an MSDOS? That's absolutly innacurate imo ...

I don't see Kaj calling his binaries "MSDOS apps". It is just a target 
ID meant to be easy to remember, nothing else.

I don't see any better ID for now other than that, if you do, please 
propose it. Anything else would look odd and inconsistent with other 
targets ID, except maybe "DOS", but that wouldn't change anything 
about the "accuracy".

The point of target names is that people can easily associate them 
with the set of config options they refer to.

IMO, the only way to get a new good replacement ID for "MSDOS" is 
to change all targets ID and adopt a different naming convention 
(one that is easy to remember).

Gabriele: that was my first intent, but I gave up to avoid having 
to code and maintain a dynamic web page...Also, I would need to set 
up a workflow, so that donators would need to fill a form first before 
accessing the donation options. I wanted to keep it simple, but maybe 
we need that.

Petr, have you tested the Windows binaries?

no, not yet, no time left for few days here ...

Kaj, it would be helpful to make it easy for ppl to get. I am an 
average user, and I can't locate the executables:

- esperconsultancy does not provide any link

- red lang does provide link to fossill (which UI I find terrible)

- I go to Files section, examples subdir - no executables there ....

I must have missed some other link probably poste around here?

Found them - it was scrolled away from the sight, as Max posted his 
source code in the Announce group :-) It would be usefull to add 
the link to the Contribution page ...

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip

We have new Samsung 64bit Win8 machine in the office, I might try 
next week to run some tests there too ...

uh, whoever came with the Fossil interface, is real example of idiot.

Click click click click, nonsense timeline, nonsense hashes, then 
you finally get to the point, where you can download a ZIP file, 
and it is named like a crap, subdir's name is weird too. I am really 
upset anytime I have to go to such an interface. It is not imo normal, 
in order to get a clue how to get a file, to twiddle around for a 
minute!

The same idiot who gave the world SQLite

First thing - unpacking the archive triggered the AVG antivirus alert 
...

Yes, we have already established that AVG is the idiot there

SQLite is a masterpiece. Fossil might be the masterpice under the 
hood too. But really - Git's user interface is much easier to grasp 
imo for an occassional user ...

Git doesn't have a web UI

Yes, I don't like the AVG either, I just have to use it :-) In my 
last company we used Slovakian ESET NOD - much better imo ...

Kaj - I meant the Github. You see? I even don't know how the system 
works underneath, it just gives me the link to download stuff on 
the first page :-)

I had to kick AVG from the Windows 7 machine to be able to use Red 
and thus Red in Fossil

So, what is the strategy? I can see various dirs, one named MSDOS, 
but can't see Windows? So what are the targets to distinguish, when 
we build the Windows apps for GUI, or the console?

And soon enough, we will most probably add Windows RT (ARM)?

Looks like your "rant" day today Petr. :-)

I don't necessarily disagree, but the Fossil UI is a generic interface 
to the generic Fossil versioning database. It's just the first visible 
step in my project to create custom apps with underlying version 
control

OK, red works, as for Red/System demos, where do I get all the dependecy 
libraries from? Any previous chat you can point me to?

Things will get much better once I can make GUIs in Red

Windows (whatever)/ARM support: I would love to see that, I just 
need to get access to such platform first....Anyone know if there's 
a virtualized option for that OS?

Tonight I added almost all dependency libraries to the MSDOS builds

Doc - the less time I have, the less I am willing to spend my free 
time, just to get around various things, where I need to get to the 
point. Multiplexing on 2zone advertising, new 2zone project, initial 
works for my new photo studio, X-zone wifi network, doing some charity 
for children next week, and my primary work, Walmark, I am being 
put on 5 new projects :-)

Kaj - e.g. do-sql errored out on not finding a library, ditto GTK 
demo ...

Pekr: maybe you would like to write a handy REBOL script that would 
download all the latest bindings from Fossil repos? That would be 
a useful tool.