World: r4wp

uh, whoever came with the Fossil interface, is real example of idiot.

Click click click click, nonsense timeline, nonsense hashes, then 
you finally get to the point, where you can download a ZIP file, 
and it is named like a crap, subdir's name is weird too. I am really 
upset anytime I have to go to such an interface. It is not imo normal, 
in order to get a clue how to get a file, to twiddle around for a 
minute!

The same idiot who gave the world SQLite

First thing - unpacking the archive triggered the AVG antivirus alert 
...

Yes, we have already established that AVG is the idiot there

SQLite is a masterpiece. Fossil might be the masterpice under the 
hood too. But really - Git's user interface is much easier to grasp 
imo for an occassional user ...

Git doesn't have a web UI

Yes, I don't like the AVG either, I just have to use it :-) In my 
last company we used Slovakian ESET NOD - much better imo ...

Kaj - I meant the Github. You see? I even don't know how the system 
works underneath, it just gives me the link to download stuff on 
the first page :-)

I had to kick AVG from the Windows 7 machine to be able to use Red 
and thus Red in Fossil

So, what is the strategy? I can see various dirs, one named MSDOS, 
but can't see Windows? So what are the targets to distinguish, when 
we build the Windows apps for GUI, or the console?

And soon enough, we will most probably add Windows RT (ARM)?

Looks like your "rant" day today Petr. :-)

I don't necessarily disagree, but the Fossil UI is a generic interface 
to the generic Fossil versioning database. It's just the first visible 
step in my project to create custom apps with underlying version 
control

OK, red works, as for Red/System demos, where do I get all the dependecy 
libraries from? Any previous chat you can point me to?

Things will get much better once I can make GUIs in Red

Windows (whatever)/ARM support: I would love to see that, I just 
need to get access to such platform first....Anyone know if there's 
a virtualized option for that OS?

Tonight I added almost all dependency libraries to the MSDOS builds

Doc - the less time I have, the less I am willing to spend my free 
time, just to get around various things, where I need to get to the 
point. Multiplexing on 2zone advertising, new 2zone project, initial 
works for my new photo studio, X-zone wifi network, doing some charity 
for children next week, and my primary work, Walmark, I am being 
put on 5 new projects :-)

Kaj - e.g. do-sql errored out on not finding a library, ditto GTK 
demo ...

Pekr: maybe you would like to write a handy REBOL script that would 
download all the latest bindings from Fossil repos? That would be 
a useful tool.

maybe I downloaded bad version ...

Kaj - maybe something wrong with your config? I get following zip 
archive naming:


System) Testing-4d2b660531ddd6fc(1).zip / Red( / Red(\System) Testing-4d2b660531ddd6fc

Why the parens in there?

Yeah, the Zip names seem to be weird on non-Unix systems. I'll have 
a look at that later

You do seem to have downloaded an old version. Go to the latest checkin 
and download the package there. Or better, update with Fossil

Glut triangle exe missing a dependency

hello-unicode give incorrect output ...

champlain map browser - missing a library

lazy sunday - ditto

mandelbrot - just crashes. In console I can see a message "Access 
denied"

read webpage - could not resolve host name when I feed it with http://www.rebol.com

Above was for the MSDOS target. None Red/System app for Windows target 
works here ...

Mandelbrot binary from the MSDOS/RedSystem/ folder works well here, 
for others I can confirm Pekr's issues.

GTK binaries are working fine.

The host name resolving is the same problem I had with cURL. Now 
that I know it's on other Windows', too, I'll try more libcurl binaries

Petr, the other dependencies you mention are indeed not included 
yet, because they're not available in binary, too big, or in versions 
not matching my bindings

hello-Unicode is because the program source is UTF-8 instead of UTF-16

Mandelbrot crashing is sabotage by your AVG

Somehow AVG blocks more of the Windows builds than the MSDOS builds

By the way, the URL for read-web-page is hardcoded to red-lang.org

How about the SDL, SQLite and 0MQ programs?

Since Darwin and Linux are kernel names, how about NT instead of 
MSDOS? Would Red conceivably run on Windows 95?

do-sql runs fine, 0MQ too ...

Kaj: Red source scripts should always be UTF-8 encoded regardless 
of the platform.

Testing Windows 8 would be very useful

I have a win8 release preview. Would this work?

NT: I don't see much the connection with console-oriented programs.


Windows 95 support: all current win32 API bindings Red uses might 
not be compatible but Red could easily be made to work on such platform 
though.

I don't know if Windows 8 preview would work, but it would be nice 
to test :-)

hello-Unicode is a Red/System program, so the Unicode printing is 
straight from the source code, without awareness

OK, I just installed win 8 Pro 32 on one of my machines and I downloaded 
the v0.3.0-0 zip and ran the run-all.r file. Perhaps that's not the 
right thing to do since it printed "running lexer-test" and then 
proceeded to lock up my machine. I can't even ctrl-alt-del. Let me 
know how you would recommend me testing Red since I may be the first 
to have win 8 among us but the last to really use Red passed the 
original "let's see if I can see 'hello world' on my Droid" a few 
months back :-)