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DocKimbel 9-Jan-2013 [5234x2] | So the "interpreted functions" do not exists at compile-time nor in the executable in source form, as their are created at runtime. |
they | |
Pekr 9-Jan-2013 [5236] | what about function argument, like in Rebol? I mean, those catch etc. arguments? |
Kaj 9-Jan-2013 [5237] | I thought the source is added as extra for body-of? |
DocKimbel 9-Jan-2013 [5238] | We could remove the body block of compiled function! values, yes, so it doesn't get added to the executable. That could be an optional switch that would also disable undefine 'body-of accessor. |
Kaj 9-Jan-2013 [5239] | Yes, that's exactly what I mean |
DocKimbel 9-Jan-2013 [5240] | Pekr: I don't understand your question, could you be more specific? |
Pekr 9-Jan-2013 [5241] | Doc - Kaj wants some option to trigger functions being complied in various ways. I just said, that maybe it can be done on per function basis, using special parameters ... my-func: func [[dynamic] a [integer!]][] |
Kaj 9-Jan-2013 [5242] | Yes, I was also thinking in that direction |
Pekr 9-Jan-2013 [5243] | The problem might be, that it has to be decided during compile time, so the source code would have to be analyzed. Otoh it might be the right place (instead of preprocessor) to fit in, along with catch, throw .... |
DocKimbel 9-Jan-2013 [5244x6] | You can still define it at runtime in such case, instead of statically define it. No need to add another attribute. |
Functions created at runtime will always retain their body block. | |
You will be able to achieve that using different approaches: 1) Using DO: do [foo: func [...][...]] 2) Indirectly specifying the spec and/or body block: body: [...] foo: func [...] body | |
This will result in 'foo function been created at runtime (then JIT-compiled or interpreted on each call). | |
Kaj: you should add your syntax proposition for keyword! + issue! to github tracker as a wish, so we don't forget about it. | |
If we don't find any big drawback, I think I will implement it. | |
Kaj 9-Jan-2013 [5250] | OK, thanks |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5251] | Added routines invocation support to interpreter. |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5252] | Congratulations: the rhythm of changes in Red is just fast! I scripted a little command that I run from time to time, just to see how both Rebol3 and Red are going: cd ~/dev/Red/ && git pull && cd && cd dev/r3/ && git pull And I can see through gitk that the rythm of Red's work is just amazing. Courage! |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5253] | Merci Pierre ! :-) |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5254] | De rien, merci à toi! I cannot really find a startup guide for Red: so, if no one shouts, I'll try to write one, during my long hours of flight next week. |
Kaj 11-Jan-2013 [5255] | That would be good |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5256] | ok, then! |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5257x3] | Pierre, have you scrolled down throw this page: https://github.com/dockimbel/Red ? |
through | |
Let me know if there are missing information there. | |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5260] | I had read another version of these instructions; it looks like it was reworked a bit. |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5261] | Yes it was, the Red/System README was merged in Red's one. |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5262x3] | I looked into the docs subdirectory, ran rebol makedoc2.r It made red-system-quick-test.html, but then I got my eyes sore with the black background, so I wanted the light version, clicked and ... oops: Firefox ne peut trouver le fichier à l'adresse /home/pierre/heaume_pierre/developpt/Red/docs/$LIGHT$. |
I found a reference to $LIGHT$ at the bottom of red-system-quick-test.txt , in what looks like a rebol script below a make-doc document. | |
REBOL [] do/args %makedoc2.r 'load-only doc: scan-doc read file: system/options/script set [title out] gen-html/options doc [(options)] file: last split-path file replace file ".txt" ".html" file2: copy file insert find file2 "." "-light" replace out "$DARK$" file replace out "$LIGHT$" file2 write file out replace out "dark.css" "light.css" write file2 out | |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5265] | Makedoc format allows the addition of REBOL code at the end. The proper way to generate the doc files is to CD to the folder, then run REBOL on %red-system-quick-test.txt |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5266] | ok |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5267] | BTW, you can find these documentations already generated online here: http://www.red-lang.org/p/documentation.html |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5268] | Isn't it a bit dark?... |
GrahamC 11-Jan-2013 [5269] | It's to save power ... fewer photons emitted |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5270] | What? The site or the docs? |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5271x3] | ;-) the site emits too few photons |
to my taste... | |
Something that I miss, from this doc page, would be a "getting started" with a step-by-step guide to start coding in Red | |
GrahamC 11-Jan-2013 [5274] | Red on black is just nearly invisible. |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5275] | Well, I try to switch to dark themes to both save powers and my eyes. ;-) I've provided a switching option to more classical "light" theme for the docs, but doing the same for the web site was too much work for me, so I've left it with the dark theme only. I will fix that once we get a new web site for Red (or if someone skilled enough can make the changes, I'll be glad to push them online). |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5276x2] | yes; and white on black with my firefox fonts is quite painful. I have a nuclear power plant nearby, providing enough electrons moving, so that I can afford to waste a few photons... |
don't worry about this... just a detail | |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5278] | Graham: it renders well here, but I don't use Clear Type. I plan to make some typographic changes to the blog anyway to make it more easily readable, I'll see if I can improve the rendering of red text parts. |
Pierre 11-Jan-2013 [5279] | Actually, it is better on an LCD display, than on my old CRT. |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5280x2] | I've trashed my last CRT in 1997. ;-) |
Actually, if some people want to tweak the CSS for the Red blog to make it more readable, I'll be glad to review and push the changes if I'm fine with them. | |
GrahamC 11-Jan-2013 [5282] | Can you add a link to the makedoc files on each html page? |
DocKimbel 11-Jan-2013 [5283] | There is no makedoc files, I'm using the Blogger platform (Google). Unfortunately, a bad choice, it is an awful blogging platform, the only part that doesn't suck is the Google Analytics integration. |
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